oldmanxfella Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I find this confusing. A lady is detained by mental health services, staff admit she's had the biggest melt down she's ever had, she is being supervised for her own protection, yet somehow she's deemed to be responsible and lucid enough to be done for making racist remarks. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/woman-guilty-of-racial-abuse-1-8258014 Clearly not mental enough then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 She'll be the victim in all of this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanxfella Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Well apparently she's mentally ill and had to be detailed for her own protection. She's obviously deemed to be lucid enough to be racist though. Surely someone in that situation has no concept of what they are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 She'll be the victim in all of this though. You know that an inability to show any sort of empathy is a trait common in psychopathic individuals? I wonder where you fall on that spectrum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterflies Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Does it count as being psychopathic when your sole point is to troll people in a vague attempt at appearing witty and clever though? I read this story and thought the same as you oldmanxfella. She was ill, they admit she was ill and shouldn't she have the right to have her medical life kept private like the rest of us? I wonder how helpful it is to someone with a mental health illness to have that fact splashed all over the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 She'll be the victim in all of this though. You know that an inability to show any sort of empathy is a trait common in psychopathic individuals? I wonder where you fall on that spectrum... To be fairly the only reason I made that comment is so that you could jerk yourself off. Plenty of people have psychopathic traits to their character. It is a lot more common than you think and not always a bad thing. The world would be fucking awful (and boring) if we were all the same (or like you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 What contribution mental health issues might have made, I am not qualified to speak of but a long history of court appearances for drug involvement, assault and theft can be added to the report. Regular appearances made in the papers in the last 5+ years in respect if such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 We need to relax drug laws apparently too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 To be fairly the only reason I made that comment is so that you could jerk yourself off. What ever gets you off...weirdo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 We need to relax drug laws apparently too. Good ol'Notverywell...completely missing the point as normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanxfella Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Does it count as being psychopathic when your sole point is to troll people in a vague attempt at appearing witty and clever though? I read this story and thought the same as you oldmanxfella. She was ill, they admit she was ill and shouldn't she have the right to have her medical life kept private like the rest of us? I wonder how helpful it is to someone with a mental health illness to have that fact splashed all over the news. To me they either have mental impairments or not. If you are mentally impaired then you're not in control of the thoughts in your head or your actions. On that basis how the hell can you be consciously racist? If this person was indeed detained in a mental health unit for her own safety how they hell can they judge that she was consciously racist? Racist words may have come out of her mouth but she may well have had no concept of what she was saying in the circumstances. It just looks like a stupid sentence to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 By this reasoning should people with Tourette's be held accountable for the their ticks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 It seems her mental issues are surprise surprise caused by drug use. No sympathy, it's really fucking simple - to get your life back on track stop doing drugs. She needs to take responsibility for her own actions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmanx Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 It seems her mental issues are surprise surprise caused by drug use. No sympathy, it's really fucking simple - to get your life back on track stop doing drugs. She needs to take responsibility for her own actions drugs ≠ mental health issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speak The Truth Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 It seems her mental issues are surprise surprise caused by drug use. No sympathy, it's really fucking simple - to get your life back on track stop doing drugs. She needs to take responsibility for her own actions Could it be that as the result of mental health issues and an absolutely appalling mental health service she chose to self medicate in the first place? People make mistakes, some of these involve drugs which can put them in a cycle of more and more bad choices. The lack of a drug rehabilitation program on the Island makes this worse. Too often, on the Island, the judicial system is used to 'control' people with mental health issues. The figures recently released show an obscene percentage of inmates in Jurby are recieving treatment,(pills not therapy), for mental health issues, many of whom committed their crimes as the result of these issues. With no secure mental health facility on the Island, Jurby is being used as a substitute and prison officers, with little or no mental health training, prison officers are the ones trying to pick up the pieces and fill in the gaps in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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