woody2 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 i don't hide anything unlike the racist snp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Its just pathetic. Sturgeon et al will always be pushing for a referendum because it makes them feel more "relevant" shall we say and May is telling them that they would be stupid to leave Scotlands biggest trading partner whilst at the same time arranging for the UK to leave theirs. I just wish the SNP would shut the fuck up and stop distracting from the real issue... wow. So we want to run our own country to make us feel relevant? You don't believe that? Wrong take. The SNP grandstanding makes Sturgeon et al feel more relevant than they actually are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It isn't "the complete unknown" though. That is just more gloom mongering. Business will always continue because there are powerful vested interests ensuring that it does so. Much more powerful than Brussels. Business will be done, and it will be done with the UK which is one of the biggest trading economies in the world. You are correct that there will be a lot more turbulence in the financial markets, but don't underestimate the amount of downside that is already priced in. I tell you that one of the biggest problems in a few years will be restraining the value of the pound. Nice try. Of course business will always be done. The question for the UK is with whom and at what cost? Of course I don't want living standards to drop in the UK, we shamefully have enough children living in poverty as it is, but I can't really see a deal being struck with the EU that makes it look like being out is better than being in. So your vision is Farage, Gove and Johnson leading us all skipping and dancing down the road to The Land Of Milk And Honey? A fitting tribute to all their lies and deceit I would say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Oh dear. http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-industrialoutput-cbi-idUKKBN16S191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Oh Woolley, don't you hate it when these "lies" come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Conversely the cost of raw materials has risen by 3.7% in February - the biggest increase since December 2011. That's how devaluation works. Simple as.... Could be good news for all the squeaky-bottom brigade in Luton and Ellesmere Port though. Let's hope they keep their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 goods from the eu cost 15% more, this does not include the membership fee and other stealth taxes the eu imposes, a massive saving can be made.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Conversely the cost of raw materials has risen by 3.7% in February - the biggest increase since December 2011. That's how devaluation works. Simple as.... Could be good news for all the squeaky-bottom brigade in Luton and Ellesmere Port though. Let's hope they keep their jobs. Yes but we've been around this circle before. Raw material content is by definition a small part of the finished product price compared to the value added within the UK economy, so the competitive advantage for exporting products FOB UK Port endures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It isn't "the complete unknown" though. That is just more gloom mongering. Business will always continue because there are powerful vested interests ensuring that it does so. Much more powerful than Brussels. Business will be done, and it will be done with the UK which is one of the biggest trading economies in the world. You are correct that there will be a lot more turbulence in the financial markets, but don't underestimate the amount of downside that is already priced in. I tell you that one of the biggest problems in a few years will be restraining the value of the pound. Nice try. Of course business will always be done. The question for the UK is with whom and at what cost? http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/itsquiteoktowalkaway.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 It isn't "the complete unknown" though. That is just more gloom mongering. Business will always continue because there are powerful vested interests ensuring that it does so. Much more powerful than Brussels. Business will be done, and it will be done with the UK which is one of the biggest trading economies in the world. You are correct that there will be a lot more turbulence in the financial markets, but don't underestimate the amount of downside that is already priced in. I tell you that one of the biggest problems in a few years will be restraining the value of the pound. Nice try. Of course business will always be done. The question for the UK is with whom and at what cost? http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/itsquiteoktowalkaway.pdf That's the thing about the t'interweb - you can always find some "facts" to back up your argument: http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Conversely the cost of raw materials has risen by 3.7% in February - the biggest increase since December 2011. That's how devaluation works. Simple as.... Could be good news for all the squeaky-bottom brigade in Luton and Ellesmere Port though. Let's hope they keep their jobs. Yes but we've been around this circle before. Raw material content is by definition a small part of the finished product price compared to the value added within the UK economy, so the competitive advantage for exporting products FOB UK Port endures. Actually the competitive advantage has been increased due to UK products now being cheaper to buy. However the best you can hope for is that the market surge in sales cancels out the more expensive manufacturing costs. Hence my best wishes earlier for those at places like Luton and Ellesmere Port who, no matter what anyone says to the contrary, are definitely at risk. Bottom line (sorry) is that our products are now more expensive to make and have a smaller profit margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'll try again, shall I? Our products are not "more expensive to make". The raw material cost is up, but the UK (value added in the sterling area during manufacture) component is unchanged and therefore relatively cheaper when converted to foreign currency for export. The raw material cost is a small proportion of the finished product price. That advantage will endure for as long as sterling stays low. The problem will be in the future when the value of the pound surges. A useful measure to take would be to drop all of the nonsense carbon taxes on manufacturing industry which are totally pointless because the places we import goods from are not subject to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 It isn't "the complete unknown" though. That is just more gloom mongering. Business will always continue because there are powerful vested interests ensuring that it does so. Much more powerful than Brussels. Business will be done, and it will be done with the UK which is one of the biggest trading economies in the world. You are correct that there will be a lot more turbulence in the financial markets, but don't underestimate the amount of downside that is already priced in. I tell you that one of the biggest problems in a few years will be restraining the value of the pound. Nice try. Of course business will always be done. The question for the UK is with whom and at what cost? http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/itsquiteoktowalkaway.pdf That's the thing about the t'interweb - you can always find some "facts" to back up your argument: http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85905 Yeah. Great innit? I guess it comes down to whether you're a glass half full or a glass half empty person. I think yours has a hole in the bottom. Never mind. It's weekend. It's sunny. Enough of this. Time for R & R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 profit margins have been raised on uk built cars..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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