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Exactly! That is what happened after Covid, when VAT was lowered to encourage people to go out. Some lowered their prices, others didn’t. I have never returned to any of those establishments that didn’t. When I asked, the minister, he said it was up to the establishment.

I am all for the green initiative. I have suggested before that all newbuilds have PV that feeds into the grid. Minimal additional cost that will be recouped in a few years. However, we have a very stupid, waste government. Look at the Lord St flats, sat there. They could be sold to genuine first time buyers, for knock down prices. Earlier, J posted a link to IOM energy usage and carbon output. About a quarter of the carbon was produced by electricity generation. Half was home heating. Think abiut that for a minute. If you are cold, put in a sweater. We don’t live in a cold country. If in doubt, try it sometime!

I agree, but last time I was there, very little was allowed to be removed. The southern site workers must have great eBay accounts!

This sight may be helpful. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Power-consumption-in-the-Isle-of-Man-shown-as-proportions-of-the-different-uses-In-2018_fig1_350546569

Yes. The rock up there is generally slate, which crack’s easily. It will have to be blasted and reinforced concrete used. That is after all the trees are felled, the peat and wildlife removed (or killed) and a large part of natural countryside lost forever all for the sake of money. Because, it will not do anything to help climate change, but will bankrupt the island.

The main problem these days is psychological bullying. When I was a kid, everyone was bullied to some extent. Pointless pecking order, as described above. When it was my turn to receive abuse, I got my revenge on the rugby field. These days, I have heard they play touch rugby.

Civil Service NIMBYs

You really have no idea, do you? A 200 metre high “sail” requires far stronger footing than a 20 metre tall building. This is a sail that puts great stress on the footings from many directions. The structural engineering bill per windmill will be in the millions. That is before any of the thousands of tons of concrete, per windmill is even ordered. Tell me, why do you think Jurby is an inferior site? I am curious, as it was originally chosen as the best, by some distance. Some of the many reasons I have mentioned above. Scard cannot even link into Castletown because of the solar farm at Billown.

Rubbish! Installation is bespoke for each and every windmill. More Pink Ladies and Granny Smiths.

Because there is not the road infrastructure, sea/ landing infrastructure, electrical infrastructure, basically there are no positives for the Scard installation. In addition, from a wind perspective, Scard is only good for southerly and westerly winds. Jurby, which was selected as the best place years ago, is virtually on the coast, with good road infrastructure, it is a brown field site already flat and ready to go. Electrical infrastructure is there, but not great. However, it can link in with the proposed solar farm at Andreas, work that will have to be done anyway. Jurby is also good for wind from 3 of the 4 directions. Installation cost will be a fraction of the cost of Scard. It is actually a no brainer.

Says the Cornish Piskie!

Cost of installation will be more than the cost of the windmills.

We have already paid towards the uks green ambitions by currency devaluation due to uk government borrowing to pay for the infrastructure and associated subsidies. Scard will cost £100 millions minimum. Completely ill thought out. The brown field site of Jurby, which has easy access to the sea for delivery, and good road access makes the most sense. The hills just south of Peel also make sense. But, Scard is possibly the most stupid place windmills could possibly be put. I am not against windmills. I am against stupidity and waste!

It is quite a good point, but on the other hand, if you go back 50-60 years, pubs were generally owned by the landlord, who ran it themselves, opening for a couple of hours at lunch time and a few hours in the evening as and when demand required. Overheads were minimal and the landlord could control the prices. Fast forward to now, and pubs are rented buildings, opening all hours and trying to be everything to everyone. It is simply not sustainable. As I said elsewhere, pubs need to reinvent themselves and create a niche market for themselves.

Why is reduced water demand a good thing? How would demand be reduced? Are you going to flush the toilet less? Drink less tea? Take less showers? Demand is on its way up due to the desired increase in population. However, there is no shortage of supply.