trench12 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 But the proposed airline is Manx owned, run for the benefit of rock residents not really a commercial venture ? the fiab flown by the air tankers has one fare all flights all year buzz -asi-mpn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, snowman said: I wonder what the competition authorities in the UK would make of that When did we become part of the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: I understand it would be perfectly feasible to run our ATC - bar the top of the tower, from Liverpool. I believe they already operate Doncaster this way? There are significant staff shortages in ATC which has meant we've been operating without radar frequently. On hand over from the regional ATC control, pilots have often had to fly what's known as procedural approaches without radar coverage or control. This relies on pilots reporting their positions to the aerodrome controller who in turn will not allow any other aircraft to commence an approach until he can guarantee - using those pilot reports only - that the airspace is clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: When did we become part of the UK? The planes depart from the UK Edited March 10, 2020 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: I understand it would be perfectly feasible to run our ATC - bar the top of the tower, from Liverpool. I believe they already operate Doncaster this way? London City https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39960993 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, sir nige said: if its that good then someone would of already set one up...... it doesn't...... Nobody has set one up because the extant competition would make it unviable. It obviously does unless money is disappearing into the ether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, madmanxpilot said: There are significant staff shortages in ATC which has meant we've been operating without radar frequently. On hand over from the regional ATC control, pilots have often had to fly what's known as procedural approaches without radar coverage or control. This relies on pilots reporting their positions to the aerodrome controller who in turn will not allow any other aircraft to commence an approach until he can guarantee - using those pilot reports only - that the airspace is clear. So not ideal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, snowman said: The planes depart form the UK All the UK would be bothered about is the income from APT! I bet the UK Treasury are heaving a sigh of relief that they don't have to drop APT now that FlyBe is as dead as the Monty Python Parrot (at least for the time being)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, trench12 said: So are you suggesting a fixed fare, no matter when booked, no matter which service....I assume there would be several flights a day to lpl/man Not necessarily - but that would be possible. Residents could even be entitled to lower fares like they are in the Canary Islands. Last I heard they get a 75% discount! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 minute ago, madmanxpilot said: Not necessarily - but that would be possible. Residents could even be entitled to lower fares like they are in the Canary Islands. Last I heard they get a 75% discount! Doesnt help tourism if they are charged 75% more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: So not ideal? It's just as safe - just means a lower flow rate and potential arrival (and departure) delays if multiple movements are scheduled at a similar time. It's not a problem today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, madmanxpilot said: It's just as safe - just means a lower flow rate and potential arrival (and departure) delays if multiple movements are scheduled at a similar time. It's not a problem today! I wouldn't worry about flow at the airport for quite some time. If at all again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, snowman said: Doesnt help tourism if they are charged 75% more I didn't say that's what we should do - just that the Canary Islands Administration have taken that step to help their residents have connectivity at a sensible price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 https://thecanarynews.com/2018/07/17/75-travel-discounts-for-all-canary-islands-residents-are-here/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) From Thursday Loganair will operate twice a day to Liverpool Departures morning & evening Daily service Patients pre booked Remaining tickets available on the website Government hope to announce news of Manchester in the "next week or so" Edited March 10, 2020 by snowman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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