dilligaf Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Kopek said: It's not about your/mine selfish desires for Manx Life to continue as before, a quiet life with mud roads and Horse and carts, it's about what is best for the Island as we enter the 21st century, we will get there eventually!, that requires a tax intake and the people to pay that tax to provide/maintain the services that we did not have in that (wonderful) past life. Check your calendar fella, we are 17 years into it already. Have you had a big sleep or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 23 minutes ago, La Colombe said: Wake up and smell the milky coffee. Latte, you ignoramos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bobbie Bobster said: Latte, you ignoramos. ignoramous Corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Max Power Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, notwell said: Yes and no. The actual main demands are from the PSPA mess and those in retirement and close to it. That is causing the real issue. This is what actually makes the implementation of tax rises difficult because it would cause uproar. Yes, I wasn't ignoring that. We would always have had a pension liability but nothing quite like what we now have. It would be interesting to be able to do some projections for where we would be if we didn't have this monstrous liability, although it is pointless I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Corrected Incorrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, Max Power said: Yes, I wasn't ignoring that. We would always have had a pension liability but nothing quite like what we now have. It would be interesting to be able to do some projections for where we would be if we didn't have this monstrous liability, although it is pointless I suppose. We are in far from disastrous shape if you exclude that pspa issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, La Colombe said: Incorrected. Yeah, that old excess "O". Getting to be a bit of a theme in these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, notwell said: We are in far from disastrous shape if you exclude that pspa issue. Unable to exclude it though are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notwell Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 No. I agree. But it's still important to acknowledge that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Yeah, that old excess "O". Getting to be a bit of a theme in these threads. You can never have too many O's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, notwell said: No. I agree. But it's still important to acknowledge that reason. It's what will drag us beneath the waves as there is no palatable way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 I often wonder what is going to happen when we can't meet the PSP obligations and have to renege on the payments to individuals. There will be interesting times ahead as we will be unable to borrow and time is running out, fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Max Power said: I often wonder what is going to happen when we can't meet the PSP obligations and have to renege on the payments to individuals. There will be interesting times ahead as we will be unable to borrow and time is running out, fast! Lot's and lot's of folk jumping up and down squealing like stuffed pigs about their entitlements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 its simple.... cap public salaries and cap pensions, should take less than a week.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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