On The Bus Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Neil Down said: I cycle past there every day... They are not there every day but there has been activity (very little) You're suffering from hallucinations, your lycra must be too tight! Edited July 2, 2019 by On The Bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, On The Bus said: You're suffering from hallucinations, your lycra must be too tight! Firstly, you are far to young to be in a pub so stop being a walter secondly, I prefer to listen to the guys who are working on the site and they confirm work hasn't stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 There is definitely something odd going on. All the sections they are currently working on (Victoria Street to Howard Street; Castle Mona to Switzerland Road; Strathallan Crescent seaward side) should have been finished by 24th May, as per their own phasing plan, only published in March. https://www.myprom.im/plans/phasing-plans#cont Since TT Week, there has been minimal progress on the tram line section, as where there was an army of men there before TT, there are now only five or six. At the current rate of progress, it is difficult to see these sections being finished by (say) end August, which will put them a clear three months behind schedule. Meanwhile, Harmer was on the radio this evening (and probably will be again tomorrow morning) mumbling about 'progress' in his usual unconvincing way, and declaring himself satisfied with 'progress', and generally treating the public with contempt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Nellie said: Meanwhile, Harmer was on the radio this evening (and probably will be again tomorrow morning) mumbling about 'progress' in his usual unconvincing way, and declaring himself satisfied with 'progress', and generally treating the public with contempt. Everyone knew it would be a total disaster from day one. Is anyone honestly surprised it’s a complete mess and behind schedule. I wonder if they are at the compensation stage for the embarrassing mess they’ve made of Queens Prom already as the traders are furious and spoiling for a fight. That myprom thing is a joke too. You get the impression that all they do every day is sit round in a circle in a site hut and toss each other off in between pointless tweets that give the public absolutely no information of any value at all as they can’t tweet a truthful “fuck all happened again today” every day for six weeks. Edited July 2, 2019 by thesultanofsheight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 They'll just be following the standard operating procedure of 5 fellas doing the work 35 management personnel. Standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Everyone knew it would be a total disaster from day one. Is anyone honestly surprised it’s a complete mess and behind schedule. I wonder if they are at the compensation stage for the embarrassing mess they’ve made of Queens Prom already as the traders are furious and spoiling for a fight. That myprom thing is a joke too. You get the impression that all they do every day is sit round in a circle in a site hut and toss each other off in between pointless tweets that give the public absolutely no information of any value at all as they can’t tweet a truthful “fuck all happened again today” every day for six weeks. I think you are being very unfair to them there TSOS, tossing each other off would involve an element of work and as we already know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Maybe they've burned through the £23M already? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On The Bus Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, thesultanofsheight said: Everyone knew it would be a total disaster from day one. Is anyone honestly surprised it’s a complete mess and behind schedule. I wonder if they are at the compensation stage for the embarrassing mess they’ve made of Queens Prom already as the traders are furious and spoiling for a fight. Don't tell anyone, but all the red concrete between the expensive train tracks outside the Queens is cracking up already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On The Bus Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: Maybe they've burned through the £23M already? The talk last week in the Queens was they are already 'substantially' over budget and the train tracks have been dropped from Loch Promenade/will now finish at the Villa Marina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, On The Bus said: The talk last week in the Queens was they are already 'substantially' over budget and the train tracks have been dropped from Loch Promenade/will now finish at the Villa Marina. That seems to tie in with the fact that there looks to be no provisions for tracks by the old Villiers site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, On The Bus said: The talk last week in the Queens was they are already 'substantially' over budget and the train tracks have been dropped from Loch Promenade/will now finish at the Villa Marina. Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Good. There's not much good about it IMHO. IF it's gone over budget then it's a massive failure of management and accountancy. Again. Plenty on these boards predicted unforseen problems with what was going to be encountered and only a month ago it was stated that progress had been hampered by "uncharted services". On a Victorian promenade. Well who'd have guessed?! People said that the DOI wouldn't be able to do the job and UK contractors should be brought in. Hmmmm. Maybe they weren't so wrong. Only two things are certain. Firstly, we will end up with half the job that we were told. Secondly, that it will cost us, the taxpayers far more than we were originally quoted. And we will still be paying for it all. For a long time to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: 20 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Good. There's not much good about it IMHO. IF it's gone over budget then it's a massive failure of management and accountancy. Again. Plenty on these boards predicted unforseen problems with what was going to be encountered and only a month ago it was stated that progress had been hampered by "uncharted services". On a Victorian promenade. Well who'd have guessed?! People said that the DOI wouldn't be able to do the job and UK contractors should be brought in. Hmmmm. Maybe they weren't so wrong. Only two things are certain. Firstly, we will end up with half the job that we were told. Secondly, that it will cost us, the taxpayers far more than we were originally quoted. And we will still be paying for it all. For a long time to come. Sorry, I meant good that they may not continue the track past the Villa. I love the trams, but don't agree with them crossing the road and travelling on the nearside of Loch Prom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 hours ago, On The Bus said: The talk last week in the Queens was they are already 'substantially' over budget and the train tracks have been dropped from Loch Promenade/will now finish at the Villa Marina. Putting the over-budget issue to one side and, if what you say is true about the trams terminating at the Villa Gaiety complex ("the cultural quarter"), then it sounds very likely that from the Gaiety to the old Villiers site will be the much discussed shared space. You know, the part that got dropped due to opposition, which was one of the reasons why the overall cost was reduced. Defo something not right, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 7 hours ago, On The Bus said: The talk last week in the Queens was they are already 'substantially' over budget and the train tracks have been dropped from Loch Promenade/will now finish at the Villa Marina. 6 hours ago, Neil Down said: That seems to tie in with the fact that there looks to be no provisions for tracks by the old Villiers site The train tracks have already been bought and paid for by the Govt so they will be put in. The single lane track will run from the War Memorial to the Sea Terminal on the Prom side hence no provision for the track in the middle of the Prom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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