manshimajin Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Hypothetically speaking imagine you have trained child protection agents (teachers, nurses, social workers, neighbours) spies and snitches who then report an incident which enables the authorities to (take a child into care) kidnap and abuse a child. this is done under the (protection) secrecy of the paedo kangaroo courts (family courts). So is the cause of the situation you describe above, the fact that parents in the first place abused their children? Or am I missing something? Given that the highest proportion of child abuse is within the family how do we stop that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 This thread is one of the best laughs I've had for ages. A Manxforums rant to expose that the planet's most trusted broadcaster is run by humans who now and again display that most human of human characteristics - the ability to make a mistake. But no sign of conspiracy theory nutter Lxxx, which is a bit of a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have no doubt that paedophile rings exist out there but this is getting ridiculous. One of the links to a site on the Jimmy Savile thread went into a long diatribe about Lord McAlpine and the Wrexham children's home with many other accusations against him, It seems that they are all based on the mistaken belief of some or one of the victims that he was the man who abused them. They may have believed it was him but they now know it wasn't. Kids are impressionable and a paedophile is never going to tell you his real name, why not disguise your identity by saying that you are a well known person? That will certainly fuel the conspiracy theories. Perhaps some of the Wrexham perpetrators were Masons, this does not indicate a Masonic conspiracy, just that some people who met at a certain club found that they have the same wicked desires and acted on it. The BBC has just been stupid in my opinion, this has exposed more of a lazy senior management structure through the years than any attempt to cover things up and protect anyone. They simply didn't want the bother as they were too busy socialising to want to rock the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossRoss Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Hypothetically speaking imagine you have trained child protection agents (teachers, nurses, social workers, neighbours) spies and snitches who then report an incident which enables the authorities to (take a child into care) kidnap and abuse a child. this is done under the (protection) secrecy of the paedo kangaroo courts (family courts). So is the cause of the situation you describe above, the fact that parents in the first place abused their children? Or am I missing something? Given that the highest proportion of child abuse is within the family how do we stop that? I believe that if you measure the death rate of kids in care vs the death rate of kids who are still with their family then this will give you your answer. As far as I am able to ascertain the death rate is shockingly high for children in care but this tends to be simply not talked about. Because of the controlled media we are deceived into thinking of Baby P type scenarios which in my opinion are engineered by the authorities. the truth is once children are taken, we simply have no idea what happens. Why keep things secret if everything is ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossRoss Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 This thread is one of the best laughs I've had for ages. A Manxforums rant to expose that the planet's most trusted broadcaster is run by humans who now and again display that most human of human characteristics - the ability to make a mistake. The BBC is hardly trusted by anybody with at least half a functioning brain. Perhaps you imagine that Jimmy Savile being a suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper murders and surviving 5 police investigations as well as abusing 300 kids some ill in hospital amounts to a few human failings. You are away with the fairies in every sense of that expression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 This thread is one of the best laughs I've had for ages. A Manxforums rant to expose that the planet's most trusted broadcaster is run by humans who now and again display that most human of human characteristics - the ability to make a mistake. But no sign of conspiracy theory nutter Lxxx, which is a bit of a surprise. Coooey!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 This thread is one of the best laughs I've had for ages. A Manxforums rant to expose that the planet's most trusted broadcaster is run by humans who now and again display that most human of human characteristics - the ability to make a mistake. The BBC is hardly trusted by anybody with at least half a functioning brain. Perhaps you imagine that Jimmy Savile being a suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper murders and surviving 5 police investigations as well as abusing 300 kids some ill in hospital amounts to a few human failings. You are away with the fairies in every sense of that expression Fancy all those listening to the BBC not realising, unlike your good self, that they've only got half a brain. By the way, where are your facts and figures on care home deaths? Did I miss them somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswellian Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 This thread is one of the best laughs I've had for ages. A Manxforums rant to expose that the planet's most trusted broadcaster is run by humans who now and again display that most human of human characteristics - the ability to make a mistake. The BBC is hardly trusted by anybody with at least half a functioning brain. Perhaps you imagine that Jimmy Savile being a suspect in the Yorkshire Ripper murders and surviving 5 police investigations as well as abusing 300 kids some ill in hospital amounts to a few human failings. You are away with the fairies in every sense of that expression See how well the system brainwashing works? Huge publicity over unfortunate children who sadly die as a result of family violence but not a squeak about what has been going on in children's homes for a long, long time. Just try and draw attention to something and see what happens. I have read some horrific stats about mortality in child care establishments yet if we talk about that we are rejected as conspiracy theorists. Seems to me that only too many believe that we can happily permit an opaque system, which will obviously contain its normal ration of predatory paedos, to operate a secret system of child care. We are told they can be trusted and sadly many believe this. Wake up out there! Paedos don't all walk round in raincoats. Some are extremely well-heeled and well-connected. They are still filthy deviants but a title here or there may well help to ease them into society and government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswellian Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Savile's disgusting deviant and debauched lifestyle had been reported on non-mainstream for years but controlled media wasn't giving it any credence. Perhaps a large number of children could have been spared trauma had someone listened. But it's much easier to believe what the controlled media tell us. Ben Fellows, a former child actor, claims that Esther Rantzen was aware that he was being plied with drink and drugs by paedos but she didn't let this spoil her enjoyment of the party. Welcome to the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswellian Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I've seen the mindless drones in action. It's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossRoss Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdbnABgHf44&list=FL722kPSsj0R83qjCJL3pM8A&index=1&feature=plpp_video Franklin cover up, background to show this is yonks oldhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfuY9t3VhCo background about how the state really operateshttp://www.gov.im/li...nreport2006.pdfThis is the report in to the inquiry into the deaths of sam barton and george greenEven the convicted murderer was a product of the care system so the care system is fucked up without a doubtit describes life in care in the isle of man and i seriously doubt things have improvedthe recommendation that really counts is the one concerning external inspection, to date not implemented to my knowledgebit of a marathon, i am afraid but P.K. you have gone up in my estimation that you actually asked a sensible question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswellian Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdbnABgHf44&list=FL722kPSsj0R83qjCJL3pM8A&index=1&feature=plpp_video Franklin cover up, background to show this is yonks old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfuY9t3VhCo background about how the state really operates http://www.gov.im/li...nreport2006.pdf This is the report in to the inquiry into the deaths of sam barton and george green Even the convicted murderer was a product of the care system so the care system is fucked up without a doubt it describes life in care in the isle of man and i seriously doubt things have improved the recommendation that really counts is the one concerning external inspection, to date not implemented to my knowledge bit of a marathon, i am afraid but P.K. you have gone up in my estimation that you actually asked a sensible question Sadly, the above is the real world. Some may prefer to pretend our system cares for all children - it saves having to concern yourself with the unfortunate realiites of the fact that children in care are very vulnerable and historically have been easily abused. There is frequently no-one to support them in their cries for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierrot Lunaire Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'm getting really scared. I mean, I reckon I could get gang raped by a bunch of powerful paedos any minute now. And I'm not even a child. It's political correctness gone fucking mad I tell ya........... No one is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boswellian Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 It's a serious topic and imo shows immaturity and very poor taste when some make light of it. There but for the grace of god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Reading the report on Samantha Barton and George Green, it is wrong to say that nobody cared or conspired to do anything but help them. I wouldn't want to be responsible for kids like this and it must be a frustrating job trying to look after young adults who don't want to co-operate. That is why mistakes happen, they sound like they needed supervision 24/7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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