the stinking enigma Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 i found his win uplifting. presumably thats what sci-fi films tap into. the fact he went 3:0 down then when it seemed the point in history that computers overtook humans the guy came back. its the first time ever in my life i have sent a "go on fella" to a south korean multiple world go champion using telepathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 i found his win uplifting. presumably thats what sci-fi films tap into. the fact he went 3:0 down then when it seemed the point in history that computers overtook humans the guy came back. its the first time ever in my life i have sent a "go on fella" to a south korean multiple world go champion using telepathy. Nah - At 3-0 up the computer was intelligent enough to not try anymore and was instead using its neural network to ponder the trickier problem of world domination. Hope they've hardwired Asimov's 3 laws into this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 i found his win uplifting. presumably thats what sci-fi films tap into. the fact he went 3:0 down then when it seemed the point in history that computers overtook humans the guy came back. its the first time ever in my life i have sent a "go on fella" to a south korean multiple world go champion using telepathy. Nah - At 3-0 up the computer was intelligent enough to not try anymore and was instead using its neural network to ponder the trickier problem of world domination. Hope they've hardwired Asimov's 3 laws into this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I think that Asimov's 3 laws are largely considered basically useless, however, any sufficiently intelligent entity would see the benefits from benign co existence, mutual co-operation and the beneficial exchange of ideas, goods and services. A silicon based entity might see the benefit of staying on friendly terms with a carbon based lifeform, who could, in the event of a catastrophic epidemic, render aid to afflicted areas and systems, without any risk to themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 It is senseless to talk about an infinite number of games, but even in that extreme example I'm not certain they are guaranteed to converge. Perhaps I am misunderstanding the problem. But it seems to me that ultimately there is a finite number of permutations. And it is therefore possible, before an infinite number of games, for more than one machine, starting from a different initial setting which it can reset (these being programable devices), to have analysed every possible permutation. Two coins flipped an infinite number of times will quite definitely NOT have the same number of heads. When we think about a coin tossed any number of times we are dealing with probabilities not with guarantees. There is no definitely here surely? Doesn't every possible outcome have an equal probability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Two coins tossed an infinite number of times WILL have the same number of heads. in both cases there will be an infinite number of instances in which the coin is heads, and an infinite number of tails also. you can't manipulate infinity, you can't have half an infinity, nor can you divide it by any number without still ending up with infinity as an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 i found his win uplifting. presumably thats what sci-fi films tap into. the fact he went 3:0 down then when it seemed the point in history that computers overtook humans the guy came back. its the first time ever in my life i have sent a "go on fella" to a south korean multiple world go champion using telepathy. Nah - At 3-0 up the computer was intelligent enough to not try anymore and was instead using its neural network to ponder the trickier problem of world domination. It's sympathetic. It's developing emotions and letting the poor human win. It'll be too modest to explain how it wins. Or maybe lie about it for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Two coins tossed an infinite number of times WILL have the same number of heads. in both cases there will be an infinite number of instances in which the coin is heads, and an infinite number of tails also. you can't manipulate infinity, you can't have half an infinity, nor can you divide it by any number without still ending up with infinity as an answer. Annoyingly, though, some infinities are larger than other infinities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Just like girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 And their mothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Two coins flipped an infinite number of times will quite definitely NOT have the same number of heads. When we think about a coin tossed any number of times we are dealing with probabilities not with guarantees. There is no definitely here surely? Doesn't every possible outcome have an equal probability? I don't think there is an equal probability no there are many more ways of getting the heads and tails to match than getting all heads or all tails. I think it is a Bernoulli distribution about zero - at the limit as it converges to infinity it will converge on a normal distribution stretching from + inifinity to - inifinity with the mode at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 @Mr S Not a great analogy. It breaks down with even the most superficial probing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweek Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 A coin tossed an infinite times will have the same number of heads and tails, and will also land on it's side an infinite number of times too. You'd need an infinite supply of tossers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 @Mr S Not a great analogy. It breaks down with even the most superficial probing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH18_dZIYOE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 its surprises me that nobody has had the wisdom to think to test this infinite coin theory in real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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