pongo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Two coins flipped an infinite number of times will quite definitely NOT have the same number of heads. When we think about a coin tossed any number of times we are dealing with probabilities not with guarantees. There is no definitely here surely? Doesn't every possible outcome have an equal probability? I don't think there is an equal probability no there are many more ways of getting the heads and tails to match than getting all heads or all tails. I think it is a Bernoulli distribution about zero - at the limit as it converges to infinity it will converge on a normal distribution stretching from + inifinity to - inifinity with the mode at zero. I think that Lao is correct about infinite coin tosses. But if we mean a very very big number then I think that we need to be set the terms more clearly. We might be arguing different things. Or even the same. The fact remains that these are programmable machines and not sentient beings. I do not see how, after testing (learning from having repeatedly tested) all possible permutations, they would not be equally good at solving the problem. It's clever, great PR for Google, but not magic. It's built on core programming principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweek Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 its surprises me that nobody has had the wisdom to think to test this infinite coin theory in real lifeYou're wrong there. There's a government project ready to test this, that have already recruited hundreds of tossers. You can get great pay, pensions and perks being a tosser here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 its surprises me that nobody has had the wisdom to think to test this infinite coin theory in real lifeYou're wrong there. There's a government project ready to test this, that have already recruited hundreds of tossers. You can get great pay, pensions and perks being a tosser here. Your puerile "tossers" joke is already getting tedious Tweek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I think that Lao is correct........ If only more people thought like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 @Mr S Not a great analogy. It breaks down with even the most superficial probing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH18_dZIYOE I was setting up for your comeback "So does your girlfriend" or the more modern "That's the title of your sex tape" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweek Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 its surprises me that nobody has had the wisdom to think to test this infinite coin theory in real life You're wrong there. There's a government project ready to test this, that have already recruited hundreds of tossers. You can get great pay, pensions and perks being a tosser here. Your puerile "tossers" joke is already getting tedious Tweek. I'll get back to you with a witty retort as soon as I've looked that word up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTaxPayer Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Your puerile "tossers" joke is already getting tedious Tweek.I'll get back to you with a witty retort as soon as I've looked that word up. It's a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, esp. a story with a funny punchline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Your puerile "tossers" joke is already getting tedious Tweek.I'll get back to you with a witty retort as soon as I've looked that word up. It's a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, esp. a story with a funny punchline You seem like someone who may in fact know of such a person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 What AI can do with a single selfie, let alone 8 of them, is getting really incredible. Scarily incredible. Think how many selfies you've put up on facebook or whatever. The flawless 4K video of Trump or Putin or Biden doing and saying things they never did or said can easily be manufactured today. Manufacturing consent, manufacturing truth. It is going to be increasingly difficult to know what people have actually said and done. A terrible situation for democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Its been wose than that for years china Also we will always have witnesses to keep track of what major politicians say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul's got wright Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Also, biden got the tag " creepy joe" for his alleged inappropriate behaviour with women and children. All from videos of him. Are they being questioned as being false or doctored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 On 5/27/2019 at 10:28 AM, Chinahand said: What AI can do with a single selfie, let alone 8 of them, is getting really incredible. Scarily incredible. Think how many selfies you've put up on facebook or whatever. The flawless 4K video of Trump or Putin or Biden doing and saying things they never did or said can easily be manufactured today. Manufacturing consent, manufacturing truth. It is going to be increasingly difficult to know what people have actually said and done. A terrible situation for democracy. It certainly puts into context the latest fake news claims about Martin Luther King Jr. Even back in the 1960s they were involved in all manner of schemes such as use of doctored images or video of him to blackmail him, not to mention the death threats. Now in 2019 we're supposed to believe "FBI surveillance tapes" from the 60s when technology is now so advanced and the same institution is on record as having conspired at the time to defame Dr King's character? If it can be done to a man of his standing, it can be done to any of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 15 hours ago, Rushen Spy said: It certainly puts into context the latest fake news claims about Martin Luther King Jr. Even back in the 1960s they were involved in all manner of schemes such as use of doctored images or video of him to blackmail him, not to mention the death threats. Now in 2019 we're supposed to believe "FBI surveillance tapes" from the 60s when technology is now so advanced and the same institution is on record as having conspired at the time to defame Dr King's character? If it can be done to a man of his standing, it can be done to any of us. Nothing new - Stalin was doctoring photos in the 1930s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I expect this will go the same way then. Only the baddies will use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Some bastard has hacked my phone and every picture it takes of me looks like some fat, grey, old twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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