The Sick Moon Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 On the spot fines of £50 could be handed out to those who smoke in a car if there are children on board. The House of Keys this week voted overwhelmingly to give a third reading to the Public Health (Tobacco) (Amendment) Bill 2015, that provides for fixed penalty notices to be imposed for smoking offences as an alternative to court action. This paves the way for the Department of Environment, Food and Agriculture to bring forward legislation banning people from smoking in vehicles where there are child passengers. The Public Health Bill also bans tobacco advertising and displays and prohibits the sale of cigarettes from vending machines. Health and Social Care Minister Howard Quayle said his department is keen to reduce the burden of ill health caused by tobacco use and is committing to providing incentives for people to quit smoking. He told the Keys: ‘The department wants to do everything possible to shield people, and particularly young people, from the influence of tobacco product advertisements and displays and easy access to cigarettes. ‘Additional controls have already been established in the UK and two public consultations have shown the majority of people support similar controls for the Isle of Man. ‘The department had also identified a need to do more to protect people from second hand smoke.’ David Quirk (Onchan) said he had no sympathy for those parents who smoke in front of children. ‘They are putting their children at risk,’ he said. Peter Karran (Lib Van, Onchan) was the only MHK to vote against. He said he supported the idea that responsible adults should not be smoking in a car if there are children present. But he questioned the merits of using primary legislation to ban tobacco advertising, suggesting there needed to be more flexibility to allow the potential for commercial advertising in the future. Even Mr Karran’s party leader, Kate Beecroft (Douglas South), did not support his view, however. ‘I don’t think principles should be put to one side because we need the money.’ Mr Quayle said: ‘Yes it may lose the island advertising but the whole world is against tobacco advertising.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's a no brainer isn't it? I only wonder if £50 is too lenient. Make it £100! We need to stub this out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I can't believe that anybody still smokes in a car with children anyway...and if they do I can't see the threat of a fifty pound fine changing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 They do! Why, I saw a young lady doing just that but yesterday! It is quite a rare sight these days though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagar the horrible Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What about kids smoking in cars when accompanied by parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 This doesn't stop parents smoking in the house when their children are present, it's only a half measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 This doesn't stop parents smoking in the house when their children are present, it's only a half measure. It does if they live in a camper van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zammo Maguire Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Peter Karran (Lib Van, Onchan) was the only MHK to vote against. He said he supported the idea that responsible adults should not be smoking in a car if there are children present. But he questioned the merits of using primary legislation to ban tobacco advertising, suggesting there needed to be more flexibility to allow the potential for commercial advertising in the future. Smoke yourself to death on the Isle of Fags. Sponsored by Benson and Hedges Could be a money spinner..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zammo Maguire Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Shit. I've posted a minute after TSM. Tatlock will be updating his sock puppet records as I type this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxb&b Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What's the point. It's not as if anyone will actually get done for it. How many dick heads do you see every day using thier phones while driving yet none ever seem to end up in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Peter Karran's logic is even more convoluted than usual. Why don't Liberal Vannin members agree a policy and stick to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What's the point. It's not as if anyone will actually get done for it. How many dick heads do you see every day using thier phones while driving yet none ever seem to end up in court. Yes, and there's supposedly a £1000 penalty for that isn't there? Theoretically at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotsAlan Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Wow, Tynwald has been on the go for a thousand years, and every year they come out with new laws. So does every Parliament on Earth. It's their job to make laws, no matter how daft. Look, I would never smoke in a car where there was kids or non smokers. Same in the house, or any enclosed space. But yeah, some people do. But I reckon the money spent on the new law would be better spent on education .As others have pointed out, loads of people use their phone while driving, and that has been against the law for many many years. We need fewer laws, and a bit more education about common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACT Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 OK, let's ban cigarettes altogether, 12 months lead up to it. Give everyone time to quit. Can you just imagine the publicity we would get, a smoke free island, clean air, safe environment, save the health service a bloody fortune. Problem is of course, the island will be broke within 6 months and Eddie will cry. win-win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanxfella Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's a tax on assholes. We should find much more ways of taxing people for being assholes. We have so many assholes over here we could raise millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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