paswt Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 How can personal gifts like that be anonymous on the extremely well financially regulated Isle of Man? lol , why should anyone have to declare gifts . If one has acquired money legitimately theft's nobody's business how one disposes of those funds. Any transaction over €15,000 should be automatically subject to AML. That would be a cumulative amount over a reasonable period of time (maybe a year) where people are paying regularly out of salary. They should also know the source of wealth of the payer. Why ? AML ? I don't have a problem with declaring the "source of wealth" , why would I if it was acquired legitimately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 How can personal gifts like that be anonymous on the extremely well financially regulated Isle of Man? lol , why should anyone have to declare gifts . If one has acquired money legitimately theft's nobody's business how one disposes of those funds. Any transaction over €15,000 should be automatically subject to AML. That would be a cumulative amount over a reasonable period of time (maybe a year) where people are paying regularly out of salary. They should also know the source of wealth of the payer. Why ? AML ? I don't have a problem with declaring the "source of wealth" , why would I if it was acquired legitimately? Which cave have you been living in since 1998? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squelch Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 JESUS saves. PASTOR spends. Perhaps they should have a word with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 How can personal gifts like that be anonymous on the extremely well financially regulated Isle of Man? lol , why should anyone have to declare gifts . If one has acquired money legitimately theft's nobody's business how one disposes of those funds. Any transaction over €15,000 should be automatically subject to AML. That would be a cumulative amount over a reasonable period of time (maybe a year) where people are paying regularly out of salary. They should also know the source of wealth of the payer. Why ? AML ? I don't have a problem with declaring the "source of wealth" , why would I if it was acquired legitimately? How would you know the source of wealth / if it was acquired legitimately if it was given anonymously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Just had a conversation with the info desk at the National Secular Society about this cult. They were extremely interested in the story. Hopefully, in the next few days it will appear in their 'Media Round Up' section. Yeah that will fuck them right over. Not interested in fucking them right over, just seeking to shine the spotlight on the continuing and disgusting religious privilege and sense of entitlement assumed by believers, not just this cult. They should be subject to taxation and inquiry like the rest of us. You in there yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 How can personal gifts like that be anonymous on the extremely well financially regulated Isle of Man? lol , why should anyone have to declare gifts . If one has acquired money legitimately theft's nobody's business how one disposes of those funds. Any transaction over €15,000 should be automatically subject to AML. That would be a cumulative amount over a reasonable period of time (maybe a year) where people are paying regularly out of salary. They should also know the source of wealth of the payer. Why ? AML ? I don't have a problem with declaring the "source of wealth" , why would I if it was acquired legitimately? Which cave have you been living in since 1998? never lived in a cave and not complaining on my present accommodation thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 How can personal gifts like that be anonymous on the extremely well financially regulated Isle of Man? lol , why should anyone have to declare gifts . If one has acquired money legitimately theft's nobody's business how one disposes of those funds. Any transaction over €15,000 should be automatically subject to AML. That would be a cumulative amount over a reasonable period of time (maybe a year) where people are paying regularly out of salary. They should also know the source of wealth of the payer. Why ? AML ? I don't have a problem with declaring the "source of wealth" , why would I if it was acquired legitimately? How would you know the source of wealth / if it was acquired legitimately if it was given anonymously? Well I've never been given any money anonymously but I have given money " anonymously" and have subsequently been asked by advocates/recipients banks to establish it's source and never had a problem. I find it amusing that the banks /governments ask all these questions "to avoid money laundering" when they presided over the biggest scam/theft by 'the banks' back in 2007/8 who all "got away with it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2bad Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Just had a conversation with the info desk at the National Secular Society about this cult. They were extremely interested in the story. Hopefully, in the next few days it will appear in their 'Media Round Up' section. Yeah that will fuck them right over. Not interested in fucking them right over, just seeking to shine the spotlight on the continuing and disgusting religious privilege and sense of entitlement assumed by believers, not just this cult. They should be subject to taxation and inquiry like the rest of us. You in there yourself? My point being if you are so incensed that is a pretty lame course of action, better just publicise their accounts and name and shame members and associated businesses or even better now that we all know where he lives stage a protest outside his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llap Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I'm thinking about attending this church. I just need to see their accounts to be sure all the tithe goes to charity before I'm prepared to join. Please can someone from LHC post their accounts to put my mind and the minds of these godless sceptics at rest? If you are truly people of God, it's not like you have anything to hide..... It says in that article that the tithe pays salaries rents and events etc. Okay, let's see an exact break down of ingoing and outgoing money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whimsy Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I was speaking to the Head Charange of the Salvation Army not many years ago, a decent man. He was earning then about £13,000 a year and had a family to support and was basically living a life close to poverty. And he was dedicated to doing genuine good works for the poor and needy and the Salvation Army continues to do so on a daily basis. Compare and contrast with this Living Hope lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 He was earning then about £13,000 a year and had a family to support and was basically living a life close to poverty. And he was dedicated to doing genuine good works for the poor and needy and the Salvation Army continues to do so on a daily basis. Compare and contrast with this Living Hope lot. Yes it's surely a miracle! Hallelujah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fliugh Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Wonder if anyone will go and heckle this Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman27 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Is there anything in place to protect schools from these manipulative religious cults yet? Parents, and er, reason. But how? We have no idea what they are telling our kids in school. They have external religious organisations coming in to school to present to the kids, but they don't tell us. I only know because my son has told me. I've just emailed the school to ask them to let me know exactly who is visiting, and raising other concerns about religious indoctrination in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 This is also one of my concerns. I currently tread the fine line of telling my chipolata that, despite what the teachers say, the Jesus story is made up, like a Brothers Grimm story. But that Father Christmas is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Is there anything in place to protect schools from these manipulative religious cults yet? I mean other than the fact that modern kids are actually a lot wiser thanks to their huge access to online knowledge. My 11 yr old granddaughter's class were invited to a "Fun day" ( the school was a C of E school to be fair), at the Church as a "farewell treat". She's had a tough time in that her mum died from ovarian cancer when she was 7 ( but she is a self assured girl) and to my and my sons surprise she declined the invite and opted to do stay in her classroom and do extra maths ! I was so proud of her , she had the courage not to "go along". I doubt I would have taken the same decision at her age ( well TBH the "maths" wouldn't be much of an incentive). Edit to add :- the school was in a rural village across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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