woolley Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: They'll have to go through with it now whatever the cost. Otherwise they will look stupid. 24 minutes ago, Neil Down said: They don’t need this to look stupid... Indeed. This ship sailed long ago, terminal or no terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevmeister Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I feel quite sad that we have a government that is now trying to do this sort of thing but there’s no money left to realistically do anything with because of the total arseholes who came before them who did nothing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1. Walk away from this waste of our money. As mentioned above, if it such a fantastic deal the private sector will fund it. The fact (to date) that it isn't shows that his will be more money down the drain. 2. Who needs Liverpool anyway? Holyhead - 2 and a bit hours sailing even at the decrepit Ben's 'cruising speed' (and even faster on the Cat) and just over an hour to the motorway system from there. And whilst Holyhead might not be the Mecca of North Wales, at least there are plenty of opportunities in the area to park up and get a meal before sailing rather than sit at Pier Head for hours after running the gauntlet of navigating through Liverpool's less desirous residential areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I assume that there is some sort of business case in play for this, such as charging the SPCo to use the facility? If we were putting freight through the terminal it may make more economic sense? We do need a thoroughly reliable and cost efficient sea service as it seems we can't force our wealthy farmers to produce enough food to keep us going for a few days. Is this the first step in taking control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Will it be under the same management as Ronaldsway Airport and Douglas Sea Terminal? Imagine a combination of that and Liverpool shop stewards running rings round them. It will make the cost of construction look like tea money. Let's duck out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 hours ago, woolley said: Will it be under the same management as Ronaldsway Airport and Douglas Sea Terminal? Imagine a combination of that and Liverpool shop stewards running rings round them. It will make the cost of construction look like tea money. Let's duck out now. 5 hours ago, Max Power said: I assume that there is some sort of business case in play for this, such as charging the SPCo to use the facility? If we were putting freight through the terminal it may make more economic sense? We do need a thoroughly reliable and cost efficient sea service as it seems we can't force our wealthy farmers to produce enough food to keep us going for a few days. Is this the first step in taking control? ...............if we are going to pay for it why would we pay to use it?............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 That's the govt being clever. They use our money to build it then charge us via charging the service operator to use it. You can't say they don't need the money. Trouble is, they are so incompetent that even though we pay to build it and pay to use it, they are still likely to make a loss running it so we'll pay a third time to make up the shortfall. Every one's a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, woolley said: That's the govt being clever. They use our money to build it then charge us via charging the service operator to use it. You can't say they don't need the money. Trouble is, they are so incompetent that even though we pay to build it and pay to use it, they are still likely to make a loss running it so we'll pay a third time to make up the shortfall. Every one's a winner. +1 that's exactly what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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