PmJ Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=48426&headline=Plans unveiled to change the culture of driving into work§ionIs=news&searchyear=2019 ’For instance, on the North Quay having people cycle in the opposite way to traffic - spectacular quote from the deluded one. It's bad enough for cyclist going in the same direction as traffic. What could possibly go wrong with his alternative idea FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 What the actual f is an effing toucan crossing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Should lead to fewer cyclists. What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PmJ Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: What the actual f is an effing toucan crossing? according to google A toucan crossing is a type of pedestrian crossing found in the United Kingdom that also allows bicycles to be ridden across. Since two–can, both pedestrians and cyclists, cross together, the name "toucan" was chosen Who'd have known? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Has the new Prom plan got cycle lanes? Should be a speed limit on cycles in Strand St of 50max? That'll slow them down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorian dad Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Nothing wrong with cycling, apart from the lycra wearing twats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I can see this thread going only one way....release the cyclist haters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Does anyone know the usual outcome or have any recent examples of sending two wheeled travellers the wrong way against the usual traffic direction ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Does anyone know the usual outcome or have any recent examples of sending two wheeled travellers the wrong way against the usual traffic direction ????? I've seen it on the Lezayre road cycle lane a few times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 To be fair cyclists have more experience than other road users (in London for example ) of going the wrong way down one way streets 16 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Does anyone know the usual outcome or have any recent examples of sending two wheeled travellers the wrong way against the usual traffic direction ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomadic Raptor Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Everyone seems to think cycling is the answer, they all go to london or Manchester and see all the people cycling around in the inner city...however they fail to realize that the Isle of Man isn’t a city, and most importantly it isn’t FLAT like most cities. Every where has a hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Does anyone know the usual outcome or have any recent examples of sending two wheeled travellers the wrong way against the usual traffic direction ????? There is no such thing as a one way street for pedestrians and cyclists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Does anyone know the usual outcome or have any recent examples of sending two wheeled travellers the wrong way against the usual traffic direction ????? Most likely a reduced number of cyclists with a certain amount of frontal damage to the respective motor vehicles and significant staining and other slight damage to the road surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 It is ridiculous encouraging people to cycle when the roads are not cycle friendly most places that have loads of cyclists provide cycle paths for them, our roads have not the width to do this and also, as mentioned, most cycling friendly countries are flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 8 hours ago, PmJ said: http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=48426&headline=Plans unveiled to change the culture of driving into work§ionIs=news&searchyear=2019 ’For instance, on the North Quay having people cycle in the opposite way to traffic - spectacular quote from the deluded one. It's bad enough for cyclist going in the same direction as traffic. What could possibly go wrong with his alternative idea FFS It's delightfully bonkers isn't it? Apart from ignoring the fact that cyclist will presumably want to cycle both ways along North Quay, they may think that they should not be used as some sort of mobile traffic calming feature. Actually what is going on here is probably the usual Manx Government habit of discovering something that was fashionable about a decade ago and trying to introduce it just as everyone else realises it was a bad idea all along. What they seem to be suggesting in their cack-handed way is something known as 'shared space'. The idea is that you let motorists, pedestrians and cyclists all share the same space without any segregation or direction, and they will all respect each other and drivers will operate carefully. The classic trial of this was Exhibition Road in Kensington. This is the road that leads from South Ken Tube Station up between the Natural History and V&A Museums to Hyde Park. The shared space scheme was designed and implemented from 2003 and cost about £30 million. So you can see why it would appeal to the DoI as spending a very long time putting down incredibly expensive paving is one of their core skills. Having used the road before and after this scheme was put in, it doesn't actually have made much effect as the cars still go down the centre of the road quite fast and the pedestrians walk on what were always pretty spacious pavements. Except where it crosses the Cromwell Road (where this scheme doesn't apply, and maybe in the morning rush hour, it's not normally that busy a road in any case. And it doesn't really seem to work as the traffic still moves fast. Even if most car and commercial vehicle drivers are considerate, it only takes one to make other road users cautious and the traffic calming effect stops. Which makes sense if you think about it as 'shared space' describes the way that roads are used in a lot of the Third World and traffic accidents and fatalities are much more frequent there. Still the sellers of Chinese granite are happy. Which is what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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