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Prison - age limit?


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47 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

It's a horrible thing to say, but soon (decades) we're really going to have to start looking hard at putting people down. Not the death penalty, but old sick confused people, on cost grounds.

My grandmother, in her 90's, had a serious stroke nearly 10 years ago, her soul has left her body, she hasn't got a clue who anyone is including herself and her memories no longer work, there is no point whatsoever in her being alive, in fact frankly living in a care home with others in a similar state she isn't, if she was a dog the vet would have put her to sleep. Strangely, physically she's in great nick, better than she was when she was living at home, can't really fault her care, its just pointless.

Maybe they could use prisoners for a trial run before they roll it out everywhere, probably just in time for me to hit 90.

 

I’d certainly like to see more advance directives that can be put in place by an individual that enables euthanasia in the future once certain criteria are met. I’ve told my kids how I don’t want to live and said they should have me ‘put down’ if they ever happen to me. Personally, if I lose my intellect and can’t look after myself then my time’s up. 

Of course there are issues about consent and coercion, but if those can be sorted out we certainly do need to think about legalising euthanasia. 

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2 hours ago, wrighty said:

I think I got the thread title wrong. Age isn’t really the issue, I was thinking more along the lines of prisoners who get dementia such that prison officers are acting more as carers than jailers.  Should they be put in another facility? The specific 104 year old seems like he should be in prison. 

You could argue the same for Police officers, should they be acting as social workers?

Its all about balance really, the line has to be drawn somewhere and if the prisoner is no longer a threat to the public/prison staff due to their dementia, then I think they should be treated in a specialist home rather be left in prison.

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On ‎10‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 8:16 PM, wrighty said:

I’d certainly like to see more advance directives that can be put in place by an individual that enables euthanasia in the future once certain criteria are met. I’ve told my kids how I don’t want to live and said they should have me ‘put down’ if they ever happen to me. Personally, if I lose my intellect and can’t look after myself then my time’s up. 

Of course there are issues about consent and coercion, but if those can be sorted out we certainly do need to think about legalising euthanasia. 

It was nice knowing you... :flowers:

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10 hours ago, thebees said:

Same for teachers, care in the community gone too far maybe?

Do teachers act as social workers? It seems to me that the first sign of any problem and the parents are called to

a) collect child

b) suspend child

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13 hours ago, Neil Down said:

Do teachers act as social workers? It seems to me that the first sign of any problem and the parents are called to

a) collect child

b) suspend child

Some teachers do yes, kids who perhaps can't seek advice from their parents/peers and ask their teacher(s) for advise in life matters instead, its then upto each teacher to decide to either maintain pupil trust/confidentially or tell the parents/relevant people involved. I remember even when I was at school those with difficulties at home/in care homes/in the care system went one of two ways, either completely off the rails or under the teachers wing.

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