Gladys Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Banker said: Full public enquiry needed https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/shimmins-calls-for-full-covid-19-public-inquiry/ Absolutely agree. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark and the future administration needs to see that politicians are held to account, even in times of emergency, which actually needs even keener accountability for exactly the reasons we have seen. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 C’mon…who really expected an administration in the hands of Quayle to function efficiently, effectively, openly and honestly? Tynwald knew full well what they were lumbering us with when they elected him. Damn them all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 49 minutes ago, Gladys said: He also squirmed around a clear and simple apology, wittering about having no manual but their experience will help in a future covid pandemic. No, you need an emergency response plan to activate for any future emergency and that should have there from the Cold War era updated for the changes in tech, structure and as potential threats changed. Agreed. We were not as well prepared as we should have been and the initial response was slow (so was the UK in fairness.) We thought it would not affect us when it was all kicking off in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Gladys said: Absolutely agree. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark and the future administration needs to see that politicians are held to account, even in times of emergency, which actually needs even keener accountability for exactly the reasons we have seen. It's less the politicians that need to be held to account (IMHO), the general elections do that, it's the unelected, completely unaccountable public servants (and there's a misnomer if ever there was one) who need to be brought to task. There is currently no will or even system to do so, it would appear. Edited May 26, 2021 by Non-Believer typo 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Uhtred said: Damn them all. They all bought in to collective responsibility and so collective accountability comes into play. 53 minutes ago, Gladys said: This morning on MR he said about the decision not to test SP crew after their request that it was easy to be wise in hindsight. It wasn't hindsight as many were saying they should be tested,but that fell on deaf ears. So the platitude trotted out should have been more along the lines of "there are none so blind as those who will not see". Exactly. Succinctly put in bold. They all thought they knew better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: It's less the politicians that need to be held to account (IMHO), the general elections do that, Not if they plan to not stand for re-election. Until we develop a better system of Government I don't think we will ever see political accountability. There are too many places to hide, and too many people in that same boat. Despite the current appearance of tearing themselves apart (which is slightly unedifying to be honest) they all operate under the same "safety rules" of not really calling each other out. Of those staying, everyone wants to get back in and they are looking to the horizon to see who they should be 'sucking up to" in preparation for greater things if do they get reelected (ie potential CM's). (Inside money seems to be on Allinson by the way - and he is probably watching for people he can rely on). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Apple said: Not if they plan to not stand for re-election. Until we develop a better system of Government I don't think we will ever see political accountability. There are too many places to hide, and too many people in that same boat. Despite the current appearance of tearing themselves apart (which is slightly unedifying to be honest) they all operate under the same "safety rules" of not really calling each other out. Of those staying, everyone wants to get back in and they are looking to the horizon to see who they should be 'sucking up to" in preparation for greater things if do they get reelected (ie potential CM's). (Inside money seems to be on Allinson by the way - and he is probably watching for people he can rely on). Spot on. The GE is not accountability as even if they stand for re-election it will be "big boy did it, and ran away". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floors4u Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 16 hours ago, Nom de plume said: “anti-Asian” implications. Really? Or are they simply trying to put pressure on ethnic & diverse British citizens who haven’t been comfortable taking up the vaccination offer? I’m not buying this Government is inherently racist, that little witch Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, is of Indian descent! Well you're completely out of touch , either that or it doesn't suit your agenda . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, floors4u said: Well you're completely out of touch , either that or it doesn't suit your agenda . You don’t agree that Priti Patel is a nasty little gerrymandering witch? You must be a Tory donor. There is no other explanation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 And so it begins. Loads of people travelling on the promise of short isolation. So surely there will be a simple, scalable and robust, clearly communicated way to get those additional tests booked and processed as quickly and conveniently as possible. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Have they fixed the wifi on the boat then? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floors4u Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 16 hours ago, Banker said: Yes that’s a load of bollocks accusing them of anti Asian, the vaccine minister is also of Asian descent I think. Hmm , let's look at this - does "Boris Johnson" and "letter box" ring any bells in that strange little world of yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trmpton Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Have they fixed the wifi on the boat then? Just docking and have got one of those fancy fangled contracts that means your phone works even when more than 20 miles from MTHQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Have they fixed the wifi on the boat then? it was shit when i was on the boat a couple of months ago. and there were fuck all passengers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Apple said: We thought it would not affect us when it was all kicking off in China. Well, the other SARS outbreaks suggested there was probably nothing to worry about.... which makes you wonder if COVID was actually "manufactured" and accidentally made it out into the Wuhan locale. Despite the WHO report I reckon there's probably a couple of scientists in the team still harbouring doubts that it actually started in the wet market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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