P.K.

"Part owner" - I think not craven running dog of the unacceptable face of capitalism: What I posted is absolutely correct as per the future sustainability of Luton and Ellesmere Port post Brexit i.e. you're talking through your arse as it's all a big unknown. If I was buying the whole organisation I know which part I would offload simply to remove uncertainty. Go spin...

Dear me. You really are fixated aren't you....? Let's start with an alternative fact. The French State is not the owner of PSA. They hold about 14% (although that figure was supplied by that bastion of communism that is the BBC). Then there's the simple fact that UK manufacturing has been in decline for a while. So they have to import components. And it doesn't matter a stuff how cheaper/more expensive the finished product is to export. Because like the xenophobic thick as pigshit Daily Wail reading Little Englanders there is absolutely NO WAY any meaningful financial projections can be made for the profitability or otherwise of the two UK plants post Brexit because the negotiations on things like tariffs have yet to take place. If I was PSA, bearing in mind that UK workers to not enjoy the same level of job protection of their EU co-workers, I would simply close them down because it's a lot cheaper to do than elsewhere. Then you can make meaningful projections around your business model. IF it takes place! Over the last 16 years GM Europe has lost something like $15 bn (figures supplied by that Kremlin mouthpiece that is the insidious BBC....) I know what I would do....

Imho worth a read if you have the time: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/feb/18/lynsey-hanley-brexit-britain-divided-culture-uses-of-literacy

I just hope that Melania is successful in her $150m lawsuit against the totally dreadful Daily Wail. Forget Mexican walls and stuff. This is alternative news that actually matters!

Blair can waste spend his wedge on anything he likes. Although with him in the spotlight it's kind-of difficult not to draw comparisons with Corbyn. I wonder how many Vauxhall workers in Luton and Ellesmere Port voted for Brexit? Squeeky-bottom time for them I would suggest. I would be interested in the EU to UK immigration figures since the vote. If it's a stampede to get in before the door closes then that shows a certain level of confidence. If not, well, interesting times....

There's no mistaking a plagiarist of The Daily Mash: "Trump and his adviser Steve Bannon said it was ‘incredibly exciting’ that any terrorist attack on the US could now be blamed on judges." Amusing story: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/unspeakable-pieces-of-shit-delighted-with-new-scapegoat-20170206121639

For about the millionth time The Greater French Empire will have to reform itself before it's too late. When "too late" is likely to arrive is impossible to say really. In a way I would like to see Le Pen win, purely from a point of schadenfreud of course. No France equals no Euro equals no EU. French food production, which seems to have a really deep hold on the Gallic psyche, would then be left with all it's weaknesses dreadfully exposed and not before time. How I would like to see them with their port and road blockades well and truly kippered - hah! Their food still tastes better than ours though, imho of course. With friends like you, PK, the EU doesn't really need detractors does it? You clearly have not been caught taking the Chunnel to get to Brussels only to end up stationary for hours because the Paysan have decided to bar your way for as long as they deem necessary while the woman at your side has that peculiar bladder problem we males don't seem to suffer from! Seriously though, they seem to be able to act with impunity. Which really pisses me off when the Gendarmes, who would pull you over for every trivial reason they can think of to impose that on the spot fine, stand around and do nothing...

For about the millionth time The Greater French Empire will have to reform itself before it's too late. When "too late" is likely to arrive is impossible to say really. In a way I would like to see Le Pen win, purely from a point of schadenfreud of course. No France equals no Euro equals no EU. French food production, which seems to have a really deep hold on the Gallic psyche, would then be left with all it's weaknesses dreadfully exposed and not before time. How I would like to see them with their port and road blockades well and truly kippered - hah! Their food still tastes better than ours though, imho of course.

Well, that's an hour of my life I would like back! It didn't actually say anything new now did it? Synopsis : The PIGS are still in the shit and in Italy's case the end or bail-outs may be self-inflicted due to some very poor financial (lack of) management. The EU has not protected them from globalisation, although why they think it would is a mystery, so the likes of Le Pen see the rise of Trump on a protectionist ticket and think "Giz a job. I can do that" with the now tried and tested "Take control of our own borders" to make you think that's the cause of all these ills and so forth. The Fatherland is doing very nicely thank you very much indeedy. But then they work hard and produce stuff folks want to buy worldwide.

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Sounds like he was guilty of cutting his travel plans too fine. He was allowed in but it took a while longer, under the conditions of this temporary ban. Bit of a non-story really. You missed out a very important part of my post. So here it is again: "If a Congressional Medal of Honor holder was held up at LHR there would be hell to pay..." This time I remembered to spell "honour" incorrectly. ETA - apparently it was reported that one reason for his 3-hour delay was because he had Iraqi entries in his passport. Strange because we travelled on MOD-90.

unless they interviewed every voter they dont have a clue, just like you Just so I understand this. A very comprehensive survey However according to you these results are invalid because they didn't ask every individual who voted in the referendum what their educational qualifications were, what their disposable income is, which way they voted and why. you have answered your own question they don't know who voted for what get over it- move on- you lost Bullshit. If you asked them all face-to-face you would be conducting a survey! There are none so blind.....

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And there we have your biggest bugbear! Enough ping-pong. I have stuff to do.

From 1st paragraph: a vote to Remain would be to continue as currently. From 2nd paragraph: ALL empires fall eventually. So I would expect The Greater French Empire to go the same way. Voila. " I expect the EU to change but not in the short term hence we should have stayed in as it's better to be in a trading bloc than in none. " Et voila! 15 - All

Errr excuse me but a vote to Remain would be to continue as currently. So unlike Brexit it's not a mystery at all. You're just bullshitting as in BBB! Actually I'm not that different. As I posted a while ago, that you either missed or ignored, that history has taught us that ALL empires fall eventually. So I would expect The Greater French Empire to go the same way. Unless, of course, it morphs into something more suited to a very fast-changing world. Well if you think that, what the hell are you on about? Your second paragraph completely negates your first. You really don't see it. As a side bet if you're a gambler, supposing the EU staggers on in the medium term, I can see Ireland following us out the exit in the not too distant. Don't be totally ridiculous! Of course my second paragraph doesn't negate the first although I don't expect you to see that. I expect the EU to change but not in the short term hence we should have stayed in as it's better to be in a trading bloc than in none. In my opinion there is far too much emphasis on the CAP to prop up inefficient French agriculture and that will have to be re-negotiated. However, again in my opinion, the food in France has a hell of a lot more taste to it than ours has. The price you pay for the major players wanting to increase their bottom line forcing down production costs I suppose. I don't gamble other than an annual bet on the Grand National. I have never won. I expect the trade negotiations with the EU to be very difficult pour encourage les autres. However if Le Pen gets in, despite the enormous gains French agriculture gets from the CAP, all bets are most definitely off. However the French food lobby seems to be all-powerful in France. It must be a Gallic thing... Time will tell.....

I used to go to the East and West coast very regularly and it used to really piss me off that a jumbo-load of pax would pitch up at the immigration desks to find out of 15 desks (say) 14 were for US citizens and one for the rest. Once the US citizens had been processed that desk didn't necessarily then take aliens, oh no. More often than not they would just piss off. I worked for a US multinational and had a Multiple Indefinite visa and there was absolutely no need for me to queue so they could make their little point that folks really really want to enter the good old US of A. If a Congressional Medal of Honour holder was held up for hours at LHR there would be hell to pay....

Errr excuse me but a vote to Remain would be to continue as currently. So unlike Brexit it's not a mystery at all. You're just bullshitting as in BBB! Actually I'm not that different. As I posted a while ago, that you either missed or ignored, that history has taught us that ALL empires fall eventually. So I would expect The Greater French Empire to go the same way. Unless, of course, it morphs into something more suited to a very fast-changing world.

Taking control of being stuffed. Except I don't share your negativity. I was opposed to Britain leaving the EU - but I don't see any reason not to make a success of it. It still seems like a time of great opportunity to me. Sure but all the blinkered Brexit supporters go on about a "Trade deal with the US of A is in the offing sooner rather than later" etc etc like everything in the garden is rosy. To me Uncle Bulgaria May rushed over to kiss Trump's arse in unseemly haste shall we say. Now Trump is first and foremost a businessman. Like the rest of the planet he knows that the UK has very much put itself up shit creek with abandoning it's biggest trading partner. Trump would be nuts (errr, hang on a minute!) to let an opportunity to strike a VERY hard bargain go begging. After all, he has to up his "America First" street cred and what better way than giving the Empire that used to lord it over the colonies a right good shafting.

Well well well. I guess if the cap fits....

This is an absolute disgrace: "Victoria Cross recipient Johnson Beharry 'humiliated' by Trump 'Muslim ban'‘ I explained that I had been in Iraq fighting for the British Army but they didn’t seem to care’ He missed a veterans reunion where he was guest of honour. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/donald-trump-muslim-ban-johnson-beharry-victoria-cross-humiliated-a7563451.html

unless they interviewed every voter they dont have a clue, just like you Just so I understand this. A very comprehensive survey has been through it's factual data and found direct correlations between things like level of education and voting intentions i.e. normal data mining stuff. However according to you these results are invalid because they didn't ask every individual who voted in the referendum what their educational qualifications were, what their disposable income is, which way they voted and why. Presumably this would all have to be done while hooked up to a lie detector as clearly you would want to make sure they all answered truthfully or the survey would be invalidated. That's a massive undertaking. So when do you start....? Proof, if proof were needed, that the more the bust exceeds the more the mind recedes....

Sure but Brexit had the most thickos because they didn't know what outcome they were voting for yet they won. I think there is a lot in what you say though. If you think back to when Thatcher passed away the opinion of the nation was completely polarised. Of course, one reason for that was the policy rationale was "They don't vote tory so fuck 'em" despite the fact that the government of the day has a duty of care to ALL of it's citizens. Thatcher didn't care who got trampled on as long as the tories got voted back in. Power for the sake of it. That polarisation found it's way onto MF. It seemed to me to pan out that those who lived through those times thought she was absolutely revolting. Those born after those times seemed to admire her. So yes, a lot is down to how your opinions are formed imho. Yes you can be "selective" about what you read into statistics. The acid test was always that the UK birthrate had a direct correlation to the numbers of bananas being imported. Read into that what you will. However this survey is not anecdotal and certainly bears out the experience of a great many people in the UK, myself included. Incidentally it was nice to see your little forum puppy-dog "Liking" your post as ever like night follows day. Awwwww bless.....

Probably because it's their future going to ratshit. Well, they should have voted then. But youngsters are like that these days. All of the privileges and none of the responsibilities.