Freggyragh Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) One particular point that you find weird? Or is this childish insult all you’ve got? Edited May 1, 2018 by Freggyragh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homarus Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 5/1/2018 at 1:37 AM, Freggyragh said: If I took over your house I’d say ‘Accept the situation or there’ll be no peace. Now, you can sleep in the shed, but you can’t go to shops, and if you get too close to the big house I’ll shoot you.’ Being the peacenik that you are you’d accept the situation with good grace. A perfect analogy for what happens when you allow people who follow an intolerant ,supremacist,backward ideology into your country! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Freggyragh said: One particular point that you find weird? Or is this childish insult all you’ve got? The whole lot really. Take the Haavara Agreement for example. That was in essence the Nazi party holding the Jewish population to ransom that the Jewish people were expected to pay the ransom, it was absolutely not any form of friendly collaboration between the Zionists and the Nazis. Then the actions of the Jewish folk in what had been determined to become a restored but limited Eretz Yisrael and that Britain was mandated to manage as part of the dissolution of the ottoman empire. Britain deliberately and illegally decided how the land was to be distributed and worse yet backed the Arab attacks against Jewish folk as well as closing the route for Jewish people returning from a still highly Jew hating Europe into their legally designated home homeland. Of course the returning people would react against this illegal and immoral behaviour, a clasic example being the bare faced lies surrounding the legitimate attack against the King David hotel, lies that were finally admitted to. The King David attack in itself was fully justified because the British had installed a military installation within the HD, a war crime in itself. There is so very much more that has been leveled against Israel and us Yids. But let's not loose sight of the shameful duplicity of the British government during that era the highlights being where the UK were promoting the return of the Jewish people to their homeland that the Moslems had invaded and ejected them from. The Balfour Declaration was a key factor in Britain's duplicity because at the same time Lawrence ( of Arabia) was schlepping around telling the Arabs that if they joined the British rather than the Turks who were in bed with Germany THEY could have the self same land. Add to that the deliberately obtuse McMahon agreement and letter - and so very much more. So no, no insult intended, childish or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, homarus said: A perfect analogy for what happens when you allow people who follow an intolerant ,supremacist,backward ideology into your country! If by that you're suggesting that the Jewish folk acted in such a way you could not be more wrong. In any case the Jewish people were returning to a small part of Eretz Israel, it was THEIR land they were returning to. People who are intolerant, superemacist, and adopt a backward ideology? Certainly not us Yids, although the ultra orthodox can be (are) a pain in the rear but they are very much in the minority. Another one running on lies, black propaganda, and memes and not reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 7:37 PM, Freggyragh said: If I took over your house I’d say ‘Accept the situation or there’ll be no peace. Now, you can sleep in the shed, but you can’t go to shops, and if you get too close to the big house I’ll shoot you.’ Being the peacenik that you are you’d accept the situation with good grace. Know what? For centuries that is precisely the way that the Jewish folk in Europe were faced with and they DID accept the situation with good grace. But as we say, Masada shall not fall again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 38 minutes ago, Rog said: Another one running on lies, black propaganda, and memes and not reality. Is that the whiter than white Israeli Government you are defending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Maybe israel and iran could sign up to the npt together. As a sign of unity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, the stinking enigma said: Maybe israel and iran could sign up to the npt together. As a sign of unity. But Israel doesn't have any WMDs...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Is that the whiter than white Israeli Government you are defending? There's very little that the Israeli government has done that has been wrong at the time or has been shown to have been wrong in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: But Israel doesn't have any WMDs...right? Of course Israel has WMD. It's knowledge of that which has prevented being overrun together that Israel undoubtedly would use them as a final act if push came to shove if WMD were ever to be used against Israel. And rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Maybe israel and iran could sign up to the npt together. As a sign of unity. Unity with who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 46 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: Maybe israel and iran could sign up to the npt together. As a sign of unity. They are not above working together covertly when it suits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rog said: There's very little that the Israeli government has done that has been wrong at the time or has been shown to have been wrong in the future. Facts suggest otherwise... https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/world/middleeast/24dubai.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Facts suggest otherwise... https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/world/middleeast/24dubai.html liberal times? really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: Facts suggest otherwise... https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/world/middleeast/24dubai.html The execution of a Hamas creature is hardly doing anything wrong! A classic example of the end justifying the means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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