spook Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Misuse of a Blue Badge is a criminal offense. Over here it carries a £1500 fine and a criminal record. It would only need a few days work from time to time followed by prosecutions to at the very least cut back on such abuse as may be taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 To be perfectly honest, I don't even know who Douglas Corporation are. Who exactly are we talking about here? It's a long time since I bothered to know anybody's name in Douglas Corporation. Is it the elected people? Or the unelected officials? And what exactly do the elected people do all day, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I work, I pay rent, I pay bills, I pay tax, I have health problems, I struggle. I might have full use of my legs but why should a disabled person who earns twice as much as me not pay for parking when I have to? Not keen on that. Well maybe Douglas Corporation is listening - to miserable selfish sods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulgarian Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Well the reasons for awarding disabled people free parking are presumably in consideration of their financial situation. Why else would you let someone have something for free when everyone else has to pay for it? Except that this doesn't make sense in this case. People who are capable of working, who can afford cars, afford car tax, afford petrol, afford shopping, can pay £2 at Chester Street like me. Financially they may actually be much better off than me. So why do they get free parking? Is it able bodied guilt? Are we just being patronising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The point is that disabled folks almost certainly didn't want to be disabled and no amount of dosh is going to change that. A critical measure of how civilised a society is can be found in how they look out for their most vulnerable and disadvantaged citizens. Douglas Corpy = Fail. What do they want the small change for? Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It should be means tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannin1 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 This thread and some of the self serving and quite frankly uncaring opinions make it very evident why this Island is no longer a very nice place to live. Shame on you all and shame on Douglas Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 They should be means tested as to how much their disability is worth? I suspect, as per, that you haven't thought this through.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulgarian Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 So if free parking is on the cards why not subsidised cars for the disabled? There's no reason for any of it. If you're driving you can earn money. You are just as capable as affording that service as anyone else. Ergo you should pay like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yes disabled includes a lot more than people who are disabled. Fat and ginger? Is that a disability? I really didn't know that we had so many people who really dislike the disabled in the IOM. Manx crabs and all that. You never see a crab in a wheelchair. Pay up like everyone else you disabled spongers! I very seldom agree with Buster, but I do in this thread. I also think that there is no need for the insults, just because Buster speaks his mind. I can't walk very far without being in pain, but I do not want a blue badge. It pisses me off when people living near me get a "reserved" space outside their gate, because someone had surgery a couple of years ago, but can now run to the car. I would be embarrassed to have a badge in those circumstances. The main thing (as pointed out a few posts back) is the amount of family members that STEAL the blue badge for their own use. That is the disgusting act that focusses viewpoints re disabled folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 They should be means tested as to how much their disability is worth? I suspect, as per, that you haven't thought this through.... No, they should be means tested as to how much they can afford, you idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 So if free parking is on the cards why not subsidised cars for the disabled? There's no reason for any of it. If you're driving you can earn money. You are just as capable as affording that service as anyone else. Ergo you should pay like everyone else. How do you feel about people who need support being provided with such things as nebuliser on the NHS? Or elbow crutches when they are needed? Or walking frames, wheelchairs, or perhaps an iron lung (these days a portable ventilator)? Means test those as well? I'm all in favour of means testing many things, but when it comes to aids to help people access what able body take for granted even I stop short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 They should be means tested as to how much their disability is worth? I suspect, as per, that you haven't thought this through.... No, they should be means tested as to how much they can afford, you idiot. It's not about how much they can afford. It's about how mobile, or not, they actually are... FFS! How thick are are some folks? Actually, I think I just found out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 They should be means tested as to how much their disability is worth? I suspect, as per, that you haven't thought this through.... No, they should be means tested as to how much they can afford, you idiot. It's not about how much they can afford. It's about how mobile, or not, they actually are... FFS! How thick are are some folks? Actually, I think I just found out... Yes it IS about how much they can afford, you pleb. When something is given "free of charge" (that's a financial determination) it should be based on financial ability. You are really attempting a very amateurish job at propaganda here. The fact is, making it means tested would not affect people who are disabled and unable to otherwise afford it. It would only affect people who can afford it, and since they can afford it I see no reason why they shouldn't pay for it. Why should a rich multi-millionaire in a 4x4 get free parking but a fit person on minimum wage in a Ford Escort should have to pay for parking? Do you not see the inherent inconsistency and warped thinking involved here? Something being financially free should be based on a financial reason. It should be means tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Getting something free of charge is not an "aid". Giving them a specialised car for their disability IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT THEMSELVES would be an aid (which I support). Giving things free of charge to people who can afford it themselves is not something I support. The welfare state was brought in to protect the poor and ordinary people, not the rich. Every form of welfare should be means tested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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