Non-Believer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 PAC are investigating and no doubt part of their finding will be that, "Lessons will be Learned". The ever-ready edict, trotted out on every previous occasion when there has been a huge overspend on a project. And yet...... It's sobering to think that NASA have probably built facilities at Cape Canaveral for less than we've spent at Half Tide Dock. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: I agree with what you say. But you can't hold someone to account any more than asking them to leave or sacking them. We don't know the circumstances of Black's departure. Suspect he was pushed. Baker was not reelected and others had gone anyway. Are you suggesting a week in the stocks for them all? It’s a nice thought but unlikely to be legal these days. No stocks. When the public’s money is spent there should be a proper and public explanation of the process and decision making involved in poor outcomes. Government thinks that it is their money but everything they do is on our behalf, or that’s how it should be. Just smudging over the details and making fluffy statements is not good enough. I don’t think we need punishment but just the ability to know who has done well or badly with the money gathered from us and for us. I know that is idealistic but that doesn’t make it impossible to do. If transparency was the norm, perhaps a bit more care and expert judgement might accompany high value investments of public funds. Maybe even, a bit more care in choosing the right people with the right expertise to make those judgements. I have more hope than expectation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman2000 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Banker said: Any idea how it’s being funded? They should be looking for a wealthy benefactor to fund & have naming rights The Whittaker Sea Terminal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 21 hours ago, Max Power said: Everton will be in their new home up the road before we have a little terminal built! Everton will win the Premier League before the feckin terminal is finished... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 19 hours ago, Non-Believer said: Cue the usual suspects defending its necessity to the hilt on the grounds of Anfield, Goodison and Liverpool One. In fact, I might go out on a limb here and predict £115M for total. I predicted £100 million yonks ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Everton will win the Premier League before the feckin terminal is finished... So after hell freezes over, but before the heat death of the universe? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) I have never been convinced that IOM Government realise it is not "Government" money, but money earned by hardworking people with which they play fast and loose ! Symptomatic was Teares remark during the film debacle, when funds generated by " Government investment" became "not actually public money", he never did respond when asked whose money was it then ? Of course he championed the phrase " commercially confidential" which is a great cover blanket for financial mistakes and lack of scrutiny. Until the use of public money is made transparent and accountable to those whose money it is, mistakes and profligacy will continue. A simple rule of thumb to me would be 'if it can't be made largely public in its entirety, then we shouldn't be doing it'. I accept of course that there will be elements of commercial sensitivity but that should not be the norm whenever anyone seeks to explore the probity of public investment. Edited January 18, 2023 by asitis 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Passing Time said: Everton will win the Premier League before the feckin terminal is finished... to far 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Mister Drone Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 12:18 PM, Passing Time said: Everton will win the Premier League before the feckin terminal is finished... That's not true. The terminal completion will eventually happen. The other is very unlikely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) I see Morecambe are getting a biosphere for £100 million https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-63952492 And you got a metal shed on a river for about the same amount............. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-36847713 WOW, just WOW. Seriously, people should be locked up for that, "Where You Can" Edited January 19, 2023 by Blade Runner 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Yes but the Morecombe biosphere does not have te Manx legs on it 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, NoTail said: Yes but the Morecombe biosphere does not have te Manx legs on it Pitiful really isn't it ! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Blade Runner said: I see Morecambe are getting a biosphere for £100 million https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-63952492 And you got a metal shed on a river for about the same amount............. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-36847713 WOW, just WOW. Seriously, people should be locked up for that, "Where You Can" Excuse me, it's a metal and glass shed. Never mind, every taxpayer on the Isle of Man can have a warm, fuzzy, charitable feeling that each in some small way has probably funded construction and home improvement projects right across Merseyside... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 7:37 AM, b4mbi said: In sensible land, you'd donate the original to the maritime museum in Greenwich who surely have the facilities and space to store her Given what they did to the Cutty Sark, I wouldn't trust them with Ian Longworth's cabbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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