Andy Onchan Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 And be prepared for Loganair to step-in for some routes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 hours ago, GD4ELI said: Toast by Friday. As long as the 0700 to Manchester goes on Friday, I’ll worry about the return after lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I fully expect Stobart Air to fill the gap. There is almost a precedent for this last February when BMI Regional collapsed. Loganair then cherry picked some of the assets and better performing routes - both BMI Regional and Loganair shared a common parent company (Airline Investments Limited). Loganair were then free to carry on operating without any of the debts or problems that had been saddled on BMI Regional. Is it morally right? Not sure. But it's happened before and it could easily happen again. I imagine Liverpool must be fairly appetizing for them - nice juicy Government contract for the hospital transfers. Possibly Manchester too for connections to the Virgin/Delta/Air France network, but that could change if Easy Jet decide to muscle in on the route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: I fully expect Stobart Air to fill the gap. There is almost a precedent for this last February when BMI Regional collapsed. Loganair then cherry picked some of the assets and better performing routes - both BMI Regional and Loganair shared a common parent company (Airline Investments Limited). Loganair were then free to carry on operating without any of the debts or problems that had been saddled on BMI Regional. Is it morally right? Not sure. But it's happened before and it could easily happen again. I imagine Liverpool must be fairly appetizing for them - nice juicy Government contract for the hospital transfers. Possibly Manchester too for connections to the Virgin/Delta/Air France network, but that could change if Easy Jet decide to muscle in on the route. Stobart are owned by Connect Airways and their assets are in third party hands. In the event that they can somehow get their hands on the assets I doubt they have the financial resources to take on many routes. FlyBMI called in the Administrators but I suspect the slots might have been in AIL name? Loganair would be my guess to take over some of the routes. Let's hope that Peter Simpson (Ex Manx Airlines & Chairman of AIL) has IOM in his sights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: ...that could change if Easy Jet decide to muscle in on the route. I can’t see EasyJet operating to Liverpool and Manchester. And would they have an available aircraft to operate the Manchester rotation. Edited February 4, 2020 by Uhtred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Uhtred said: I can’t see EasyJet operating to Liverpool and Manchester. And would they have an available aircraft to operate the Manchester rotation. They have 19 or so based there so the idea doesn't seem impossible. They also fly to Jersey from both Liverpool and Manchester. Any Easy Jet flights would be nowhere near the five times a day pattern of FlyMayBe at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51453196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 And this is only going to add to FlyBe woes: https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/company-news/2020/02/24/airlines-plunge-on-coronavirus-outbreak/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Looking very much like it's Game Over for FlyBe: Coronavirus raises new doubts over the airline's future . Edited March 4, 2020 by GD4ELI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 8:48 PM, GD4ELI said: Toast by Friday. Did they make you late for a hot date at some point in the past, GD4? You seem to be cheering on their demise on a monthly basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, woolley said: Did they make you late for a hot date at some point in the past, GD4? You seem to be cheering on their demise on a monthly basis. Not cheering at all, just commenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) It's a ruse by Cyrus..... using COVID-19 as an excuse for a UKG bailout. Oi Cyrus!..... put your hands in yer pockets yer tight-fisted gits! Or wave bye-bye to your reputation and investment on this side of the pond. ETA: I see Delta have applied to FAA permission for a codeshare agreement with FlyBe. If they have the time and inclination for that then they have the dosh to keep FlyBe in the air. Edited March 4, 2020 by Andy Onchan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 1:10 PM, Uhtred said: I can’t see EasyJet operating to Liverpool and Manchester. And would they have an available aircraft to operate the Manchester rotation. Easyjet have applied to operate Manchester and the government refused. If Flybe go under they'll operate both Liverpool and Manchester. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On The Bus Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, snowman said: Easyjet have applied to operate Manchester and the government refused. If Flybe go under they'll operate both Liverpool and Manchester Airlines don't "apply to operate" anything on the Isle of Man. Open Skies sees to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, On The Bus said: Airlines don't "apply to operate" anything on the Isle of Man. Open Skies sees to that! apply was the wrong word - but you know what i mean Edited March 4, 2020 by snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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