woody2 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: No you haven't. i have mojo...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think I'll leave you to your delusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, ballaughbiker said: I think I'll leave me to my delusions. fixed..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 Uk can unilaterally revoke Article 50 rules the ECJ. Great news really, paves the way for a second referendum in the event of the current deal being rejected this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Quote Posted December 3 On 12/3/2018 at 7:13 PM, ballaughbiker said: I think I'll leave me to my delusions. fixed..... Not fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 12/2/2018 at 10:28 AM, wrighty said: Brexit predictions: 1. The vote on 11th December will go against May’s plan 2. May resigns 3. Boris comes in as leader, promising 2nd referendum 4. Referendum votes against Brexit, article 50 revoked, UK stays in the EU 5. Massive boost to UK economy on back of this 6. Boris calls general election to secure his own mandate, and secures a landslide victory on the back of point 5. Which was Boris’ plan all along. He never wanted Brexit, it was all part of his scheme to achieve world domination. You read it here first. Just a little boost for my prediction from 6 months ago. So it took 3 goes, but I was right on points 1 and 2. Point 3 will happen, although no second referendum yet. That will come though, when labour start pushing for it and Boris realises he can't negotiate a deal to satisfy parliament and that his own MPs will rather bring down the government and have an election than a no-deal exit. He'll agree to the referendum, and points 4-6 will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, wrighty said: Just a little boost for my prediction from 6 months ago. So it took 3 goes, but I was right on points 1 and 2. Point 3 will happen, although no second referendum yet. That will come though, when labour start pushing for it and Boris realises he can't negotiate a deal to satisfy parliament and that his own MPs will rather bring down the government and have an election than a no-deal exit. He'll agree to the referendum, and points 4-6 will follow. Where would a Tory landslide victory come about if the Brexiteers, feeling betrayed, abandon the party for Farage? Remainers grateful to Boris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Declan said: Where would a Tory landslide victory come about if the Brexiteers, feeling betrayed, abandon the party for Farage? Remainers grateful to Boris? I think the whole idea of Brexit will be dead and buried once a second referendum rejects it, and people vote with their pockets. If in a couple of years there is economic prosperity on the back of remain, led by a gurning Boris, Farage's group will be little more than a pressure group rather than a significant force at the polls. Or, perhaps Farage will be the next PM (after Boris). Stranger things happen in politics these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I agree with Declan on this point. Unless the result of the second referendum (and we are far from guaranteed that will happen at this stage) is resoundingly (70% plus) in favour of remaining in the EU then Farage and the Brexit Party will not go away. The Tory party will continue to haemorrhage support to the Brexit party with a small percentage of others choosing alternative parties such as the Greens and Lib Dems instead (probably those that would have traditionally voted Labour when fed up of the Tory Party). BoJo will not want to preside over the death of the Tory party any more that the Maybot did but the reality is that they are in real danger of imploding. I don't think either the Tories or even Labour will want a general election at the moment considering how they suffered in the local elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, manxman1980 said: I agree with Declan on this point. Unless the result of the second referendum (and we are far from guaranteed that will happen at this stage) is resoundingly (70% plus) in favour of remaining in the EU then Farage and the Brexit Party will not go away. The Tory party will continue to haemorrhage support to the Brexit party with a small percentage of others choosing alternative parties such as the Greens and Lib Dems instead (probably those that would have traditionally voted Labour when fed up of the Tory Party). BoJo will not want to preside over the death of the Tory party any more that the Maybot did but the reality is that they are in real danger of imploding. I don't think either the Tories or even Labour will want a general election at the moment considering how they suffered in the local elections. Agree almost totally with this, but I would add that the Labour Party is in equally perilous mortal danger. We could be in for a reset of the political divides similar to those of a century ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, wrighty said: Just a little boost for my prediction from 6 months ago. So it took 3 goes, but I was right on points 1 and 2. Point 3 will happen, although no second referendum yet. That will come though, when labour start pushing for it and Boris realises he can't negotiate a deal to satisfy parliament and that his own MPs will rather bring down the government and have an election than a no-deal exit. He'll agree to the referendum, and points 4-6 will follow. I can see why you would say this, but I think that Brexit is not such a "vote with your wallet" issue as you are assuming for similar reasons as expounded by manxman1980. To be frank, I do not believe that BoJo gives a toss about the Tory Party or Brexit, or indeed anything other than BoJo. He is not even a Brexiteer with any conviction. It is not forgotten how he spent a weekend deciding which side of the referendum campaign to support and this was not because he was wrestling with his conscience about what it would mean for the prospects of the country. Someone in his position would surely have held a fixed view for a long time. He blows with the wind and it was all about which course would facilitate the greater glory of himself, and I reckon that this is why Gove knifed him at the last leadership charade before May's coronation. He realised finally that Johnson is a waste of space. So I would not be at all surprised if he does indeed flip to another referendum. If he does that, though, and it goes for remain then the Tories will be toast at the subsequent election. No landslide. Then absolutely anything could happen. BoJo won't care. He'll be atop the next woman and writing his extremely lucrative memoirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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