gettafa Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 A look at the provided data. You might think that the level of grant received amongst the claimants would follow a normal distribution bell curve. Far from it. Is this money being well spent, is it necessary? There are 32 receive less than £1000 131 receive £0 - £5,000 From there it slopes off, all the way to the 5 who receive over £100,000. One, surely the daddy of them all, receives £145,983.50. Back on topic, what was the cost of Meals on Wheels? Who are the Tynwald Members who receive this grant and where do they sit on this distribution. That is, as owners of the land - Howard Quayle likes to say how he doesn't receive the grant but the tenant does. He must think we're still shitting yella. Obviously the land grant is factored into the rent he receives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, gettafa said: A look at the provided data. You might think that the level of grant received amongst the claimants would follow a normal distribution bell curve. Far from it. Is this money being well spent, is it necessary? There are 32 receive less than £1000 131 receive £0 - £5,000 From there it slopes off, all the way to the 5 who receive over £100,000. One, surely the daddy of them all, receives £145,983.50. Back on topic, what was the cost of Meals on Wheels? Who are the Tynwald Members who receive this grant and where do they sit on this distribution. That is, as owners of the land - Howard Quayle likes to say how he doesn't receive the grant but the tenant does. He must think we're still shitting yella. Obviously the land grant is factored into the rent he receives. I wonder if the "daddy recipient" might be DEFA itself? Forestry, plantations etc (if there's any left)? One Govt Dept paying another as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 According to this MLC David Anderson received £120000ish a year or two back https://octopusmedia.im/2016/11/16/revealed-cash-received-by-politicians-companies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 This stuff has GOT to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 54 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: According to this MLC David Anderson received £120000ish a year or two back https://octopusmedia.im/2016/11/16/revealed-cash-received-by-politicians-companies/ Surely puts Anderson in the top 3, of the 399. He takes that £50k a year for being, quite frankly, a silent knacker. I have had two occasions to contact him, both serious matters, one of when he was Health Minister. I didn't even receive an acknowledgement. Anyway, whatever, the people of the Isle of Man need to be told why this mega handout is justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, gettafa said: Anyway, whatever, the people of the Isle of Man need to be told why this mega handout is justified. And then what will they do? Likely as not it'll be the same as it ever was, they'll accept what they're told, moan about it for a while then quickly roll over and forget about it in supine indolence. A typical example is the gas rip-off; many thousands of locals took a rather dim view of the new terms and were, by their own accounts, very angry. A demonstration of this anger was organised with much fanfare. Less than 100 people turned up... Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 And that's why we have these shit things, because no one can be bothered to stop it. Unlimited power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 And some might say that on an Island such as ours, it doesn't 'do' to stick your head above the parapet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynragh Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The rates are here... There's a bit of jiggery pokery with different things, but the basic flat rate for BML (Below the mountain line) is £78 an acre from 2018 onwards, so you can work out from how many acres any MHK is farming (owning) what they're taking roughly. Whether the tenant farmer is getting the money or not would be more difficult to ascertain, but it would be quite unusual from what I know. edited - 2018 is the first year of the totally flat rate on area - they've been tapering in from the old system for the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynragh Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, quilp said: And then what will they do? Likely as not it'll be the same as it ever was, they'll accept what they're told, moan about it for a while then quickly roll over and forget about it in supine indolence. A typical example is the gas rip-off; many thousands of locals took a rather dim view of the new terms and were, by their own accounts, very angry. A demonstration of this anger was organised with much fanfare. Less than 100 people turned up... Lol. And I agree with this... It's a scandalous situation, but apparently people don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarne Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 http://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/another-manx-gas-protest-tomorrow/ It's ok, there's another protest tomorrow. I bet on 10 people, because it's cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, gettafa said: And some might say that on an Island such as ours, it doesn't 'do' to stick your head above the parapet. Correct. The forelock-tuggers, and cap-doffers, those who were brought up to know their place, perpetuate this nonsense of wilful ignorance and wan compliance. Like ghosts in a weed-garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkle Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 56 minutes ago, quilp said: Correct. The forelock-tuggers, and cap-doffers, those who were brought up to know their place, perpetuate this nonsense of wilful ignorance and wan compliance. Like ghosts in a weed-garden. I wouldn't like any "ghosts" in my weed garden!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Seemingly big landowners are blackmailing both government & their tennants by saying if they're not given loads of public dosh farm rents will have to go up High time the paying public refused to pay this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 How would we do that then, refuse to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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