Holte End Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Neil Down said: Amazing the number of anti cyclist rants that boil down to “road tax” evasion... Road Tax or Vehicle duty is a none starter, But I do believe that to ride on the highways people should have taken their cycling proficiency training and received a certificate, which if asked for should be produced as any old idiot can just get on a bike and ride on the roads. The same goes for horse riding their should be some form of training before attempting to ride on the highway if there isn't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paswt Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Holte End said: Road Tax or Vehicle duty is a none starter, But I do believe that to ride on the highways people should have taken their cycling proficiency training and received a certificate, which if asked for should be produced as any old idiot can just get on a bike and ride on the roads. The same goes for horse riding their should be some form of training before attempting to ride on the highway if there isn't already. Don't mind the horses , always slow down and give them a wide berth, but not sure about the riders taking their dogs for a walk while riding round 'church bends' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Colombe Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 ..."Numerous incidents of cyclists using the route"... Despite the ban. Hmm. It's a bit like the TT one way system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I blame ray harmer https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/doi-calls-for-concerted-effort-on-active-travel-plan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 hours ago, paswt said: Don't mind the horses , always slow down and give them a wide berth, but not sure about the riders taking their dogs for a walk while riding round 'church bends' Yes there was a lady cycling on the prom yesterday with a dog in the basket at the front. If it had jumped out of the basket it would have caused an accident. Hard to believe that it’s legal to be able to do that. It’s just stupid in heavy traffic on a Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: Yes there was a lady cycling on the prom yesterday with a dog in the basket at the front. If it had jumped out of the basket it would have caused an accident. Hard to believe that it’s legal to be able to do that. It’s just stupid in heavy traffic on a Saturday. As bad as stupid car drivers with dogs on their knees mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, dilligaf said: As bad as stupid car drivers with dogs on their knees mental It looked really dangerous to be honest. If the dog would have jumped it could have been under the wheels of a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Roads before asphalt were lanes which catered for horses and cycles both before the advent of the motor vehicle so in theory should be allowed on the roads without issue, however, asphalt was originally laid for motor vehicles and continue to do so and increasing in numbers therefore the roads shouldn't really allow horses and cycles unless some kind of insurance and tax is paid, and even then im not sure it wpukd be a good idea to jave them on the road as our network of roads can't cope with the myriad of people using them as it is. This island contradicts itself constantly, on the one hand the island is promoted as a speed freak racing destination with a no limit national speed limit but then also wants to encourage active travel on the roads with piss poor half arsed cycle lanes (2 of them, both of which are shit), this doesn't make any sense at all.....it's all one big fucking mess, narrow b roads with cycles, fast motorbikes, buses and HGVs...fucking mental and it'll take a miracle to sort out, if ever at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 hours ago, thesultanofsheight said: It looked really dangerous to be honest. If the dog would have jumped it could have been under the wheels of a bus. The other one I hate to see is girls with babies in prams and the fucking dog tied to the pram crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Neil Down said: Amazing the number of anti cyclist rants that boil down to “road tax” evasion... Perhaps because it is a legitimate argument? Anyway on another matter cyclists may and do suggest that they should be exempt as they do not create any emissions. To which I would say what about the extra emissions unavoidably created by a queue of traffic stuck behind a pack of selfish cyclists, riding three or four abreast, which cannot be safely overtaken. Surely it is only equitable that cyclists should make some contribution towards the environmental costs that they create? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 About 99% do via tax paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizo Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Use your brain when overtaking or read this idiot guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Gizo said: Use your brain when overtaking or read this idiot guide Thanks I get it. One lone cyclist is as much responsible as a group of three or four cyclists riding abreast for holding up a string of traffic and the extra emissions that that creates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I've just done the maths and the pro rated tax on those extra emissions would be 0.05 pence per cyclist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Holte End said: Road Tax or Vehicle duty is a none starter, But I do believe that to ride on the highways people should have taken their cycling proficiency training and received a certificate, which if asked for should be produced as any old idiot can just get on a bike and ride on the roads. The same goes for horse riding their should be some form of training before attempting to ride on the highway if there isn't already. Fully agree but when anybody can take a boat out to sea without any training, there’s not much chance of enforcing any cycle related training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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