english zloty Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 What the actual fuck at the end of Victoria Street! No right turn except to cross two lanes of traffic. And putting left and right hand lanes together in the left hand lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Ha. They have just announced an emergency closure of Broadway for five days from tomorrow to implement a revised traffic management solution. It's almost as if they didn't realise having a stop sign with a pelican crossing right by it may be a bad idea. Can't wait to see what they come up with next. The last 20 or more years people have been trundling down Broadway and on seeing a green light have just followed the car in front and now...... right over the STOP sign. Has there been an accident there yet? A couple of Fridays ago there were various police and ambulance there (and a dog van??) but I don't know if that was a result of the somewhat bizarre temporary road layout or something else. Edited December 3, 2019 by gettafa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, gettafa said: The last 20 or more years people have been trundling down Broadway and on seeing a green light have just followed the car in front and now...... right over the STOP sign. Has there been an accident there yet? A couple of Fridays ago there were various police and ambulance there (and a dog van??) but I don't know if that was a result of the somewhat bizarre temporary road layout or something else. Apparently yes. Could be that Friday your referring too. Someone got knocked down on that crossing . Edited December 3, 2019 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MrPB said: Granted but have you heard the racket and vibration the trams in Manchester create running on concrete. I assume they did that so that people can hear them coming and at least get out of the way. But on a sleepy heritage route across Douglas Prom? It doesn’t really seem to make much sense trying not to dampen the noise. I haven’t noticed them being louder or creating more vibration than Amsterdam, Sofia, Dublin, Zaragoza, which are the last 4 places I’ve been which have had them. And there’s a real difference between a double tram unit, weighing 40 tonnes, travelling at 3 or 4 times the speed of a horse tram ( in shared space - and up to 50mph on dedicated segregated track ) and carrying 200+ passengers, and a light, slow horse tram moving at walking pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Literally the very first thing I said when I saw it. The potential for someone to be knocked down by a vehicle turning into Broadway from the Gaiety end was obvious. Well maybe if your former colleagues policed that area and enforced it then maybe the crap drivers, and they must be to not do 20mph in a 20mph zone with adequate signage and bloody bright traffic lights, might just get the message to slow the hell down, pay attention and be considerate or leave their cars at home and fucking well walk. Edited December 3, 2019 by yootalkin2me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: Well maybe if your former colleagues policed that area and enforced it then maybe the crap drivers, and they must be to not do 20mph in a 20mph zone with adequate signage and bloody bright traffic lights, might just get the message to slow the hell down, pay attention and be considerate or leave their cars at home and fucking well walk. Sorry, I think you need Gary Roberts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Sorry, I think you need Gary Roberts. No I don't, neither I or my family walk or drive down that way, however, I will ask for a Police presence there on behalf of people of the Isle of Man. Edited December 3, 2019 by yootalkin2me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, John Wright said: I haven’t noticed them being louder or creating more vibration than Amsterdam, Sofia, Dublin, Zaragoza, which are the last 4 places I’ve been which have had them. And there’s a real difference between a double tram unit, weighing 40 tonnes, travelling at 3 or 4 times the speed of a horse tram ( in shared space - and up to 50mph on dedicated segregated track ) and carrying 200+ passengers, and a light, slow horse tram moving at walking pace. Probably the difference between a modern form of transport run properly for people's convenience, and a rickety old nag cart that's trundling along empty as it shakes itself apart! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 21 hours ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: The easiest way to fix the rail problem is to stop laying them when they reach the Villa. I'm told the horse tram part of the scheme is heading massively over budget already and it's highly likely they will scrap the Loch Promenade section (that also removes the need to lose 90 - 100 parking spaces which should prove popular with the public). There's only one way they can scrap it and that is via Tynwald and there the ones that sign off on this mess in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, John Wright said: I haven’t noticed them being louder or creating more vibration than Amsterdam, Sofia, Dublin, Zaragoza, which are the last 4 places I’ve been which have had them. And there’s a real difference between a double tram unit, weighing 40 tonnes, travelling at 3 or 4 times the speed of a horse tram ( in shared space - and up to 50mph on dedicated segregated track ) and carrying 200+ passengers, and a light, slow horse tram moving at walking pace. So we're back to the over engineering again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: So we're back to the over engineering again. According to the rail lads over doing the job it's all well over engineered . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, yootalkin2me said: Well maybe if your former colleagues policed that area and enforced it then maybe the crap drivers, and they must be to not do 20mph in a 20mph zone with adequate signage and bloody bright traffic lights, might just get the message to slow the hell down, pay attention and be considerate or leave their cars at home and fucking well walk. Ask Father Christmas to get you a book on how to use punctuation correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Ask Father Christmas to get you a book on how to use punctuation correctly. I think punctuation is the least of this island's problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 59 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: According to the rail lads over doing the job it's all well over engineered . If true, makes one wonder how much we really needed to spend on a Victorian horsedrawn tramway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Neil Down said: Ask Father Christmas to get you a book on how to use punctuation correctly. Oh, im sorry, are you a grammar expert? Funny thing about grammar, spelling and punctuation, the human brain can process text with bad grammar, punctuation and spelling so it doesn't really matter as most people are able to 'fill in the blanks, not sure what the percentage is but let's say it's at 90%, you then, are in the minority 10% and I tend not to cater for the minority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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