Non-Believer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Reported on news today that sacked UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson will receive a severance package of over £18k. It's not unusual at those levels. And IoM Govt has an outstanding record of generosity at pay off time....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, 2112 said: Just a long shot ................ MARS! Ive got the feeling that at least one of the two will make a return back to the civil service or the public payroll. Wasn’t/isn’t MARS a redundancy programme? If so, it wouldn’t apply. The word used is “resigned” and if the posts have been deemed redundant then they couldn’t be re-filled...which seems pretty unlikely. Unless of course the Michaels report is so dramatic that it’s proposing the complete dissolution of DHSC...and hence no need for a CEO and deputy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, english zloty said: Nick Black could be parachuted in I recommend someone sabotage his pack before he jumps. Allowing him to land safely will lead to a bigger mess to clear up, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, MrPB said: I don’t want to create conspiracies but I’d say that’s normal practice for high profile leavers/exits (you never usually know which it is). There would be a thick confidentiality agreement though if that was the case so I doubt if it was true either party could disclose anything anyway so a question would likely be pointless. Onchan still don’t know what their clerk did or didn’t get and that’s over a year ago now. i'll tell you what the onchan clerk got, a fucking big one up and fuck you to the cretins that tried to fuck him over. at the rate payers expense of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Beecroft vindicated ffs.....no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: Reported on news today that sacked UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson will receive a severance package of over £18k. It's not unusual at those levels. And IoM Govt has an outstanding record of generosity at pay off time....? £18k. a manual worker would get more than that. Even if you meant £180K, that would still fall way short of what these two would get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, dilligaf said: £18k. a manual worker would get more than that. Even if you meant £180K, that would still fall way short of what these two would get. Precisely what I was meaning Dilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck of Atholl Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Possibly a pay off , let's say 6 months. It won't be a recognised scheme like MARS just a metaphorical brown envelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 3 hours ago, MrPB said: Its my understanding that there is nearly always an exit package agreed via a confidential compromise agreement to avoid anyone going a bit rogue after the event and taking people to tribunals etc. I wondered whether the OP knew whether there was one of not. That was all. Just because the press release says they have resigned it does not necessarily mean that they have, in fact, resigned. Nope, just relaying the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Duck of Atholl said: Possibly a pay off , let's say 6 months. It won't be a recognised scheme like MARS just a metaphorical brown envelope. You're a tad more than naïve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I believe the Michaels report makes some strong recommendations with regard to the governance of the health service, preventing it from setting policy and standards and then being responsible for achieving those standards which it has set for itself. It would mean the setting up of a regulatory body separate to the DHSS. This may have had some bearing on matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Max Power said: I believe the Michaels report makes some strong recommendations with regard to the governance of the health service, preventing it from setting policy and standards and then being responsible for achieving those standards which it has set for itself. It would mean the setting up of a regulatory body separate to the DHSS. This may have had some bearing on matters? You could apply those recommendations across any number of Govt Depts. The only policing, questioning or even constructive criticism takes place in Tynwald and is quickly brushed off by the relevant Dept's glove puppets. Which is why we are where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: You could apply those recommendations across any number of Govt Depts. The only policing, questioning or even constructive criticism takes place in Tynwald and is quickly brushed off by the relevant Dept's glove puppets. Which is why we are where we are. Why we are where we are... generally we live in a good society, good health service, good education, safe streets. Sure, there are issues but on the whole things are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 A cynic might suggest that this is our government of control freaks not wanting to answer questions on a major news story or clarify things - a press release at 5 to 5 on the Friday of a Bank Holiday weekend! Ah well. We are where we are. It is what it is. Lessons will be learned, moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 how hard can it be to get a decent civil servant, decent management and decent MHK. two hospitals (and alot of its patients use the in house travel agent) one social care department its not rocket science. it should be this hard to run a world class service. incompetent MHK, incompetent management, incompetent CM and they should fix the clinical staff shortages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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