Neil Down Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, WTF said: it seems they were tied up correctly but the bar they were tied to let go of the boat, so whether you'd tied them yourself or racket staff had done it if the boat starts dropping to bits there isn't much you could do about it. that's comforting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Neil Down said: that's comforting... The old sea cat (the one that crashed/sank in the Mersey) was constantly being welded even at sea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, finlo said: The old sea cat (the one that crashed/sank in the Mersey) was constantly being welded even at sea! It didn't sink did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowell thurber Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, finlo said: The old sea cat (the one that crashed/sank in the Mersey) was constantly being welded even at sea! No it wasn't Not at sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Neil Down said: It didn't sink did it? It "sat a little low in the water" for a while after a disagreement with another ship in the Mersey, didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 It was very scary and easily could have been an absolute disaster, a very close thing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, finlo said: The old sea cat (the one that crashed/sank in the Mersey) was constantly being welded even at sea! They covered the seams with what looked like white emulsion paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: They covered the seams with what looked like white emulsion paint. B&Q bathroom sealant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: It "sat a little low in the water" for a while after a disagreement with another ship in the Mersey, didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 There was a geezer on the glorious nations station this morning describing it as the voyage from hell - presumably he's never watched titanic. Reckons it sailed in a force 8. Impressive stuff, considering they dont sail the ben in a force 5 come wintertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said: There was a geezer on the glorious nations station this morning describing it as the voyage from hell - presumably he's never watched titanic. Reckons it sailed in a force 8. Impressive stuff, considering they dont sail the ben in a force 5 come wintertime it may be that under usual operating circumstances they would have cancelled the boats but with hoards of tourists trying to get home on time they took a chance and sailed anyway to keep the schedule up. it almost worked except for a few bent cars and bikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, WTF said: it may be that under usual operating circumstances they would have cancelled the boats but with hoards of tourists trying to get home on time they took a chance and sailed anyway to keep the schedule up. There can be no 'taking chances'. Limits are limits are limits. They're there for a reason. Failure to recognise or respect limits are how incidents like this happen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx2_Flight_7100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Manannan cancelled today. Must be a force 9 on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 Sailing or not sailing used to be at the Masters discretion and in the old days with the sturdier boats, more passengers and less freight vehiclewise they used to sail, usually. Now it is still down to the Masters discretion but the insurers have tight conditions which have to be considered, I am sure cattle can not be transported if it is over a force 5. I am sure all the old Manxies like myself have sailed in atrocious conditions and all have tales to tell !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Gay'n Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: Sailing or not sailing used to be at the Masters discretion and in the old days with the sturdier boats, more passengers and less freight vehiclewise they used to sail, usually. Now it is still down to the Masters discretion but the insurers have tight conditions which have to be considered, I am sure cattle can not be transported if it is over a force 5. I am sure all the old Manxies like myself have sailed in atrocious conditions and all have tales to tell !!!! I think that the wind speed/force is an issue, but its direction is critical and the sea state more than anything else determines whether the master can sail legally (or ought to sail for safety reasons). For example, the Manannan's licence as a ferry requires that she cannot sail if the sea state exceeds a 3m swell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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