Roger Mexico Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, skins said: Maybe they could use some of the “dial a ride” minibuses parked up empty round the island to backfill routes Still need exactly the same number of drivers though, so if a shortage of drivers is the problem, minibuses are just going to make it worse. But then the minibuses were always a solution looking for a problem, or more correctly a buying decision that had to be justified by dreaming up schemes to use them. Still no doubt they will claim it 'saves' a small amount of money if you ignore the enormous extra capital costs and the fact they've cocked things up so much that even the running costs will be more. Still it looked god on paper, providing you didn't think about it too much. Which is what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I was unaware that the drivers are paid more or less based on it being a minibus vs a standard single decker, or a double decker. The single decker ones do have a logical purpose on specific routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Low bridges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Grounds Keeper Willy said: Don't quote me on this as it’s second hand but I heard the mini bus people are on a casual flat rate. The newer bus drivers are also on a flatter contract which doesn’t factor in weekend work. But the older bus drivers are on a highly lucrative contract which gives them high hourly rates at weekends and public holidays which they have refused to get bought out of. So apparently nobody is prepared to work Saturday night as they dint get extra, but because of the extra hourly rate they also won’t ask the older bus drivers to do it on cost grounds either. It’s like living in 1979. I don't need to quote you. It's completely accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Zero hour contract drivers are on I think it's £10 57 a hour !! Around that with no extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Grounds Keeper Willy said: Don't quote me on this as it’s second hand but I heard the mini bus people are on a casual flat rate. The newer bus drivers are also on a flatter contract which doesn’t factor in weekend work. But the older bus drivers are on a highly lucrative contract which gives them high hourly rates at weekends and public holidays which they have refused to get bought out of. So apparently nobody is prepared to work Saturday night as they dint get extra, but because of the extra hourly rate they also won’t ask the older bus drivers to do it on cost grounds either. It’s like living in 1979. What a strange mentality and encapsulates the problem with the bus drivers. You shouldn't be paid extra to work weekends. It's the job. Same as prison wardens, police and nursing? The answer is to probably have a recruitment drive (no pun intended). Bus driving isn't rocket science. Which is why it shouldn't be paid silly sums of money. No reason why you couldn't have a 'bank'of drivers like nursing/carers do for the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 hours ago, finlo said: They carry electrical control/data signals within computers etc. Phew! Thought for a moment it was some sort of mobile container shared by the smelly and infirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 hours ago, finlo said: They carry electrical control/data signals within computers etc. Phew! Thought for a moment it was some sort of mobile container shared by the smelly and infirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
display name Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Mind you,had to think twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I’ve seen an unusual/abnormally high number of ‘Driver Under Instruction’ buses lately. Are they trying to overcome these issues with a fresh tranche of ‘new contract’ drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 hours ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: What a strange mentality and encapsulates the problem with the bus drivers. You shouldn't be paid extra to work weekends. It's the job. Same as prison wardens, police and nursing? The answer is to probably have a recruitment drive (no pun intended). Bus driving isn't rocket science. Which is why it shouldn't be paid silly sums of money. No reason why you couldn't have a 'bank'of drivers like nursing/carers do for the hospital. they have, but what are in effect the bank drivers won't work the weekends. maybe a combination of better things to do with family and not wanting to help management circumvent their contracts with the old established drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Uhtred said: I’ve seen an unusual/abnormally high number of ‘Driver Under Instruction’ buses lately. Are they trying to overcome these issues with a fresh tranche of ‘new contract’ drivers? A friend has just passed as a driver . And yes it's zero hour contract at around £10. 50 a hour ..as little or many hours to total suit when you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louis Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 How are these people still employed, when they cannot deliver what they are paid to do. Sorry, I forgot, this is the Isle of Man where, as far as government is concerned, doing what you are paid to do is just an option rather than a contractual obligation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I heard the problems last night were due to the drivers attending a retirement doo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Zero hour contracts should be made illegal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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