Happier diner Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, John Wright said: Yes. Two aircraft carriers, floating, but not working. Huge mechanical problems. They keep breaking down. Prince of Wales can’t even make it round the IoW and back from Portsmouth. Plus, they don’t actually have planes to fly off them yet. Minor teething problems.😫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: My bad, I meant purchase tax of course. We wouldn't reclaim VAT on purchases online or, we would follow the example of Jersey, maybe. So jersey folks don't pay VAT on stuff bought in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Or! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: Or! It was a genuine question. I'm not sure how it works with the CIs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Jerseyites pay Jersey goods and services tax on incoming items costing over £135 inc. postage etc, if you wish to know more, look it up it's easy to find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: We already levy our own income tax. How could we reclaim vat on things bought on line. Well, we can go the whole hog and levy our own customs duties and VAT or sales or purchase tax on everything coming in - allowing UK/EU suppliers to sell VAT free to IoM residents. Lots won’t supply on that basis and it’s expensive for IoM to do that solo, or we can enter/stay in a single market and customs Union with a single VAT system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, John Wright said: Well, we can go the whole hog and levy our own customs duties and VAT or sales or purchase tax on everything coming in - allowing UK/EU suppliers to sell VAT free to IoM residents. Lots won’t supply on that basis and it’s expensive for IoM to do that solo, or we can enter/stay in a single market and customs Union with a single VAT system. Do you think the UK would be keen to keep this little relationship with us ( the common purse) if we were to achieve independence? I wouldn't be too optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Do you think the UK would be keen to keep this little relationship with us ( the common purse) if we were to achieve independence? I wouldn't be too optimistic. Perhaps we negotiate a deal with Ireland ( by then United ) or Scotland ( by then independent ) and both in the EU. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, John Wright said: Perhaps we negotiate a deal with Ireland ( by then United ) or Scotland ( by then independent ) and both in the EU. And be part of the schengen area. Winters in Spain again. Yippee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Happier diner said: And be part of the schengen area. Winters in Spain again. Yippee We won’t know unless we explore the options. Which is the only point I came on this thread to make, only to be told I can’t be trusted to tie my own shoe laces. Fortunately I’ve got Schengen options, if I wanted to be away 90+ days at once. As it happens, I don’t. I’m not like George, my dad, who, into his 80’s wandered around Europe all winter, and often in the summer, in his mini motorhome, including North Africa. No mobile phones. Just a phone call a week before he left to meet and collect his house keys and a cheque book of signed cheques, and then a reverse charge call from Dover to say he’d be home in 24 hours and to request I put on the heating and filled the fridge. In 20 years of doing that there were only two “problems”. He went away, one year, in April, May my sister told me she was expecting and getting married. Set the date in September. Fingers crossed he’d be back in time. He was, with 7 days to spare. The other was, aged 78 he was sideswiped, moho damaged and he spent a couple weeks in a hotel, before ringing. We booked him flights home, then I sorted out the insurers and recovery services and got the van repaired. A couple months later he flew out, collected the van and carried on from where he had left off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Benefits of independence would be the freedom to hang nonces, rapists and murderers, so it's not all bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Benefits of independence would be the freedom to hang nonces, rapists and murderers, so it's not all bad. To avoid the risk of the rabid right, hang ‘em high and flog ‘em brigade implementing any such policies we’d definitely need to be in the ECHR and EU. Not sure I want to live in a pariah state. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, John Wright said: We won’t know unless we explore the options. Exactly. Where does the debate start - presumably politically in HoK ? A separate agreement with the free travel area would be more than welcome and I can't see it being detrimental to the UK. Or did I miss a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Apple said: Exactly. Where does the debate start - presumably politically in HoK ? A separate agreement with the free travel area would be more than welcome and I can't see it being detrimental to the UK. Or did I miss a point. Its not just a politicians only debate. Extra parliamentary debate is good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, John Wright said: ts not just a politicians only debate. Extra parliamentary debate is good. Public Consultation, or make it an issue of the next general election. One can only hope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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