House of Keys Order Paper April 30th

[Moghrey Mie]

https://www.tynwald.org.im/spfile?file=/business/opqp/opqp/2024-PP-0059.pdf

 

[Two-lane]

"12. The Hon. Member for Arbory, Castletown and Malew, Mr Moorhouse, to ask the
Minister for Education, Sport and Culture –
Which of her Department’s schools are being reviewed by Tribal Education
Services; when she expects to receive a report on each review; and when each
report will be made available to parents and other stakeholders"

 

Is this tribalgroup.com?

[Moghrey Mie]

38 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

"12. The Hon. Member for Arbory, Castletown and Malew, Mr Moorhouse, to ask the
Minister for Education, Sport and Culture –
Which of her Department’s schools are being reviewed by Tribal Education
Services; when she expects to receive a report on each review; and when each
report will be made available to parents and other stakeholders"

 

Is this tribalgroup.com?

Yes

[Moghrey Mie]

14/9 in favour of getting rid of bishop's vote in LEGCO.

Well done to all MHKs who believe in secular government.

[Andy Onchan]

43 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

14/9 in favour of getting rid of bishop's vote in LEGCO.

Well done to all MHKs who believe in secular government.

Now for the rest of COMIN.

[Moghrey Mie]

6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Now for the rest of COMIN.

I think they'll go for it (unless Peter Edge gets to them first).

[Andy Onchan]

30 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

I think they'll go for it (unless Peter Edge gets to them first).

The Bishop was easy meat but the rest should follow. Let's see how brave Hooperman and the rest of them are now shall we?

[Roger Mexico]

2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said:

The Bishop was easy meat but the rest should follow. Let's see how brave Hooperman and the rest of them are now shall we?

They haven't got rid of the Bishop at all.  Firstly they'd still be a member of LegCo and Tynwald, just without a vote.  And secondly the Bill has to go through LegCo itself and we know the members of that are opposed and will probably vote it down.

The truth is that this is just virtue-signalling, both from Hooper and most of those who supported it.  And like most virtue-signalling, it was designed not to do what it claims to do - increase democracy in this case - but to distract from the the fact that there was no real intention to do anything effective.

Edited April 30 by Roger Mexico
Without a vote not with obvs

[Andy Onchan]

Just now, Roger Mexico said:

They haven't got rid of the Bishop at all.  Firstly they'd still be a member of LegCo and Tynwald, just with a vote.  And secondly the Bill has to go through LegCo itself and we know the members of that are opposed and will probably vote it down.

The truth is that this is just virtue-signalling, both from Hooper and most of those who supported it.  And like most virtue-signalling, it was designed not to do what it claims to do - increase democracy in this case - but to distract from the the fact that there was no real intention to do anything effective.

Indeed. Like a lot of us said earlier in the thread. Wasting time and resources when other far more important things need addressing. I confess to being a little disingenuous and cynical in my comments to MM. Sorry about that MM. 

[Two-lane]

All this stuff about being at the forefront of AI annoys me. I searched the gov. website but did not find. How to I find out who the nine are?

[Moghrey Mie]

1 hour ago, Two-lane said:

All this stuff about being at the forefront of AI annoys me. I searched the gov. website but did not find. How to I find out who the nine are?

Full information and mug shots on www.tynwald.org and details in the phone book.

They are not in government.

 

[Jarndyce]

2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

it was designed not to do what it claims to do - increase democracy in this case - but to distract from the the fact that there was no real intention to do anything effective

No it wasn’t - it was a dead cat to distract attention away from Hooper’s disastrous recent months at the DHSC.

[Roger Mexico]

Just now, Jarndyce said:

No it wasn’t - it was a dead cat to distract attention away from Hooper’s disastrous recent months at the DHSC.

I don't think that's true.  Simply because Hooper is so full of himself that he obviously thinks that his recent behaviour has been impeccable and universally acclaimed except from a few teachers who had it in for him since RGS, no doubt because they were jealous of his transcendent genius.  He wouldn't think any cats - live, dead or Schrödinger's - necessary. 

[Jarndyce]

1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said:

Hooper is so full of himself that he obviously thinks that his recent behaviour has been impeccable and universally acclaimed except from a few teachers who had it in for him since RGS, no doubt because they were jealous of his transcendent genius

Good point, well made.   That’s a scary level of self-delusion, though…

[2112]

2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

They haven't got rid of the Bishop at all.  Firstly they'd still be a member of LegCo and Tynwald, just without a vote.  And secondly the Bill has to go through LegCo itself and we know the members of that are opposed and will probably vote it down.

The truth is that this is just virtue-signalling, both from Hooper and most of those who supported it.  And like most virtue-signalling, it was designed not to do what it claims to do - increase democracy in this case - but to distract from the the fact that there was no real intention to do anything effective.

We are still without a Bishop. Maybe once this legislation completes its passage, the island will get a Bishop, or if Legco vote the legislation through, maybe the role of Bishop of Sodor and Man become a distant memory?