Gravy Train Gets New Engine?

[TheTeapot]

The DoI are a bunch of lying cunts and everyone knows it.

[dilligaf]

17 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

The article claims that the DOI have "revealed" that over 11,500 have used the systems since they reopened but there isn't a more specific figure quoted or under what release.

IoMN's FOI figures are stated as 3,163 using the MER and 5,046 using the Steam Railway up to August 11. A further 1,909 have forward booked for the dining car giving a total of 8,769.

That figure apparently tallies with the answer given in Tynwald questions, though the article doesn't attribute the question to anybody. But that gives a shortfall of 2,711 passengers to that on the DOI's statement.

Family and friends not buying tickets, but in the headcount ? 
 

only joking

[John Wright]

39 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

The article claims that the DOI have "revealed" that over 11,500 have used the systems since they reopened but there isn't a more specific figure quoted or under what release.

IoMN's FOI figures are stated as 3,163 using the MER and 5,046 using the Steam Railway up to August 11. A further 1,909 have forward booked for the dining car giving a total of 8,769.

That figure apparently tallies with the answer given in Tynwald questions, though the article doesn't attribute the question to anybody. But that gives a shortfall of 2,711 passengers to that on the DOI's statement.

Someone can’t add up. 3,163 + 5,046 = 8,209. Add 1,909 and you get 10,118, which is a shortfall of 1,382 on 11,500. Not sure if it’s DOI or Non-Believer or IomN

But then Roger Mexico’s figures are different again. He quotes 5,606 on the railway and 1348 advance bookings on the dining car. The 5606 includes 561 who’ve already travelled and dined. So the 1909 dining car total is a combined total of those who have already dined and those who are to dine.

Rogers total, via FOI is 10,117. So there’s an odd 1 missing.

[TheTeapot]

It's purposeful disinformation.

[Non-Believer]

25 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Someone can’t add up. 3,163 + 5,046 = 8,209. Add 1,909 and you get 10,118, which is a shortfall of 1,382 on 11,500. Not sure if it’s DOI or Non-Believer or IomN

But then Roger Mexico’s figures are different again. He quotes 5,606 on the railway and 1348 advance bookings on the dining car. The 5606 includes 561 who’ve already travelled and dined. So the 1909 dining car total is a combined total of those who have already dined and those who are to dine.

Rogers total, via FOI is 10,117. So there’s an odd 1 missing.

It's the figures quoted in the paper that are wrong then John. They quote 3163 + 5045, giving a true total of 8208, plus then a further quoted 1909 meal bookings, giving a true total of 10,117 (not the paper's 8769). But it doesn't make it clear if they're forward meal bookings or meal bookings already taken so that might be my bad. The description is "a further 1,909 have booked to travel on the dining car".

[asitis]

For the life of me I don't really care whether the figures are 10,000 or 50,000, they are representative of a population in staycation mode. In either case none of this goes anywhere close to justifying the 8.5 million a year the toy trains cost the taxpayers !

 

 

[Andy Onchan]

6 minutes ago, asitis said:

For the life of me I don't really care whether the figures are 10,000 or 50,000, they are representative of a population in staycation mode. In either case none of this goes anywhere close to justifying the 8.5 million a year the toy trains cost the taxpayers !

 

 

All heritage transport should be handed over to volunteer groups. People will come & actually pay for their own accommodation expenses to operate these assets! Happens all around the UK and beyond.

[Banker]

6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

All heritage transport should be handed over to volunteer groups. People will come & actually pay for their own accommodation expenses to operate these assets! Happens all around the UK and beyond.

But what about all the civil servants jobs , what would become of them?

[joebean]

30 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

All heritage transport should be handed over to volunteer groups. People will come & actually pay for their own accommodation expenses to operate these assets! Happens all around the UK and beyond.

This is totally at odds with IOM service delivery policy. It starts with the question “What method of delivery would require the biggest contribution by public funding?” Only when this question has been adequately answered can any further work on delivery commence.

[Non-Believer]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

But what about all the civil servants jobs , what would become of them?

We can create more Govt Depts to accommodate them.

[Andy Onchan]

3 hours ago, Banker said:

But what about all the civil servants jobs , what would become of them?

They could be offered a new contract with the newly created heritage transport organisation or offered a position within IOMG under the same terms as their existing contract.

[Apple]

What, like Manx Care but about transport?