Won a balo Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Many people weren't born or have forgotten about the Poll Tax in the UK (Google it) . I lived in Scotland (which had the tax introduced a year earlier than the rest of UK) and can clearly remember the understandable feelings of unfairness. I remember the riots in London too. This tax/charge in its proposed form is entirely misplaced in the Isle of Man. Any person with an understanding of the Isle of Man should realise that. I would like to know who is so desperate/stupid as to propose this method of raising income. That so many MHKs seem to have accepted it with such little protest is astounding. To get 1,000 people to put their name to a common cause on the Isle of Man is a surely unprecedented. When it reached 2,000 I thought that would be the amazing limit. It is now over 6,000. Only a foolish MHK would attempt to ignore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Only a foolish MHK would attempt to ignore that. Unfortunately, we're spoiled for choice in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We actually need the kind of petition where people say "I promise that I will not vote for my current MHK if he/she votes to support this tax." It wouldn't even need 6,000 to concentrate a few minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We actually need the kind of petition where people say "I promise that I will not vote for my current MHK if he/she votes to support this tax." It wouldn't even need 6,000 to concentrate a few minds. Problem with that is...well I'm sure you could use your imagination, and imagine what the next election would actually result in if that were to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 They were talking about this again on Manx Radio this lunchtime, and even Bell thinks it's an unfair tax. So why are they going ahead with it when everyone, including the minister charged with introducing it, thinks it's a bad idea ? This isn't the fiscal policy of a responsible government, it's a stick-up of its own people, and the piratical action of a bankrupt tax haven, bereft of ideas, as it eats itself in order to survive. There are people who are worried sick about this new tax, while for Bell's wealthy chums fifty quid is merely the price of a light lunch. Bell's government has reached a new low with this one and shame on any MHK who votes for it. It won't be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We actually need the kind of petition where people say "I promise that I will not vote for my current MHK if he/she votes to support this tax." It wouldn't even need 6,000 to concentrate a few minds. Problem with that is...well I'm sure you could use your imagination, and imagine what the next election would actually result in if that were to be the case. Perhaps one in which the move to introduce this tax is no more than a distant memory. The possibility of losing their comfortable positions might just strike enough fear into them. In fact, it's a tactic that could be used a lot in the years ahead to make politicians more accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 We actually need the kind of petition where people say "I promise that I will not vote for my current MHK if he/she votes to support this tax." It wouldn't even need 6,000 to concentrate a few minds. More effective would be a petition to immediately terminate the said MHK's current term in office and bring forth a by election with new candidates. Example: If I was employing an architect to draw plans for a new house I'd sketched up and he kept coming back with increasingly whacky designs which were far removed from my original expectations I would just hire a different architect who could deliver what I originally envisaged and within a set budget. In this example, the architect has proven to be an unpredictable liability and in breach of his contract and I'm not obliged to provide any further employment to him so I get rid quickly. I really don't see any reason why an MHK should expect to be employed on any different terms than the architect example above(unless they think they're a special case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Houghton was in Shoprite saturday taking advantage of the 9 for 6 offer on the 'Andrex'. Maybe he's expecting a 'smear campaign'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisenchuk Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Looking at the photos of the newly 'rectified' road markings I'm not sure that they actually comply with the requirements either. I'm pretty sure the zone end markings for a 1032 type road marking should include double white markings as indeed they were on the old ones seen on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Houghton was in Shoprite saturday taking advantage of the 9 for 6 offer on the 'Andrex'. Maybe he's expecting a 'smear campaign'.... Maybe he is stockpiling, as he is soon going to announce they're taxing loo rolls instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That is a much fairer way - the polluter pays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireblade paul Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Is there no way the people of this island .can vote someway other than the elections .no confidence and empty the useless ones out .they have been elected in by us for us .not by us for them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Probably not but it would be helpful if some our local media did a bit of opinion polling now & then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Sod paying that. You won't have to pay Albert - yours all comes out the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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