Lost Login Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 BREAKING: Minister Shimmin's resignation has now been acceptedWell that's that then - the public have been given their pound of flesh, someone has been blamed and taken the fall. Now we can call this episode closed and move on without looking at private-public sector relationships, efficieny and ability of civil servants, relationship between officers and ministers or any of the murky underbelly of Manx politics they are so desperate to distract us from. Move along now, nothing to see here...until it happens again. No, a Minister has done what a Minister should do in such a situation to uphold the reputation of the position. What is a shame is that Bell did not accept immediatly or that Shimmin did not say I am going anyway. This looks they tried to see if they could find a way out and bowed to pressure. However As John wright said in other posts, and you have that should not be the end of the matter. It should be fully investigated, those that have made errors disciplined etc, but this can now be done without a side show of whether or not it will lead to a minister going and without the reputation of Government being further damaged in the meantime. It was the first step required, it should not be the last. I will say I am surprised as Bell having refused yesterday to accept yesterday must have some up with some good spin about why he believed in right to accept toady. I was also a bit annoyed with Shimmin's comments earlier that he was waiting to hear what Bell's reason were for refusing the resignation and what the reasons might be which was basically just self praise. If you really believe you should resign you resign, you do not wait to see if your boss agrees. That looks as if you don't want to resign and will only do so if you are told to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
censorship Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 However As John wright said in other posts, and you have that should not be the end of the matter. It should be fully investigated, those that have made errors disciplined etc, but this can now be done without a side show of whether or not it will lead to a minister going and without the reputation of Government being further damaged in the meantime. It was the first step required, it should not be the last. A fiver says it will be the last step. In fact, lets say a tenner cos if I lose I can always find talk to government and see if they can find a way of lending me the cash, you know, in the public interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/isle-of-man-news/shimmin-falls-on-his-sword-after-all-1-6684450 Quick translation for those who have not listened to Bell's statement is, I did not want him to resign, Shimmin did not want to resign but the public, business, uncle Tom Cobbly and all believe he should and even I cannot spin my way out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 However As John wright said in other posts, and you have that should not be the end of the matter. It should be fully investigated, those that have made errors disciplined etc, but this can now be done without a side show of whether or not it will lead to a minister going and without the reputation of Government being further damaged in the meantime. It was the first step required, it should not be the last.A fiver says it will be the last step. In fact, lets say a tenner cos if I lose I can always find talk to government and see if they can find a way of lending me the cash, you know, in the public interest. I hope you are wrong, but go for a a few grand as remember per the Governments logic every pound spent results in the multiplier affect in terms of benefit to the local economy so the more you borrow the more the Govt makes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 They should all be walking around with their heads down low, in shame, I saw Robertshaw and Bell today, both with their heads held high, like they had nothing to be ashamed of, disgusting people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmadmanx Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 According to IOM Newspapers Mr Shimmin will be 19K a year worse off as a backbencher rather than a Government Minister. He may have to get a little part time job to make up for it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 He may have to get a little part time job to make up for it!! he will be dusting off his shorts and plimsoles as we type!!! he'll be back though with even more arrogance and power at some point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 he will be dusting off his shorts He'll have to let them out a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I wouldn't employ him as a cloakroom attendant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lxxx Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 According to IOM Newspapers Mr Shimmin will be 19K a year worse off as a backbencher rather than a Government Minister. He may have to get a little part time job to make up for it!! When the dust settles and Shimmin wakes up to the cold harsh reality that he's been made a fall guy, so Laurel and Hardy can continue along their merry way scot free, I hope he turns rogue and dishes the dirt to bring them down with him.... .....unless Bell has offered him a sweetener to go away for a bit, keep your head down and we'll get you back on board soon sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 He hasn't actually resigned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 .....unless Bell has offered him a sweetener to go away for a bit, keep your head down and we'll get you back on board soon sunshine. ...which happens every time there's a ministerial mess and someone resigns. Bell and Teare should go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sick Moon Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 He hasn't actually resigned though. Oh sorry, he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 He hasn't actually resigned though. Oh sorry, he has. You should go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 So they will appoint a back bencher as a minister, that will leave a few political appointment gaps at one Department or another. In Shimmin will go and that adds £10k back immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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