Derek Flint Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, Nellie said: This was pretty clear a long time ago. The carriageway was tight on several sections of Queens Prom before the work began, and on reconstruction, the gap between the two lines (not the gauge of course, but the gap in the middle) has been widen by around 15 inches, thus taking around 8 inches of width off each carriageway. This section was not subject to planning approval, as it is supposed to be a 'like for like' replacement. Presumably the DoI don't understand the term 'like for like'. The widening of the overall width of the tramway is to, potentially, facilitate Ian Longworth's MER to the Sea Terminal fantasy. I wondered that, but if you were going to electrify, you’d be puttIng in the foundations to drop the poles into whilst you had it all dug up? woudn’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: I wondered that, but if you were going to electrify, you’d be puttIng in the foundations to drop the poles into whilst you had it all dug up? woudn’t you? catenary doesn't need poles in the middle of the road. just somewhere either side and a bit of a spiders web along the route, it has never going to happen and fuck up written all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: I wondered that, but if you were going to electrify, you’d be puttIng in the foundations to drop the poles into whilst you had it all dug up? woudn’t you? I think Longworth's vision is that there will be no overhead, but they'll use some sort of generator or battery device to drive the electric trams on this section. There is precedent, as they ran an MER car, so powered, on the Douglas to Port Erin line, a number of years ago. If that doesn't come off, then I'm sure he'll be able to convince Black and Harmer that if they give him a million quid, he'll be able to make them work by magic. Edited December 12, 2019 by Nellie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I think 2 million would be a better starter ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, NoTail said: I think 2 million would be a better starter ... By the time those two have finished that will be per tram ! Also there's a slight problem as they still have to finish the Prom and that's not happening anytime soon ! Big announcements on 18 th I've heard as to revised timetable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Finished in time for TT 2025? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Finished in time for TT 2225? Fixed that for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 The Gateway to the Island, lumbering behemoths and Horse drawn Trams!!! Jeeze, what do these fools think they are trying to achieve? I've fifty squillion quid to invest somewhere but do they have Horse Trams!!! That's the deciding factor!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just now, Kopek said: The Gateway to the Island, lumbering behemoths and Horse drawn Trams!!! Jeeze, what do these fools think they are trying to achieve? I've fifty squillion quid to invest somewhere but do they have Horse Trams!!! That's the deciding factor!!! I'll put you in touch with my Nigerian friend...leave it with me ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Well these would look nice on the prom, around £4m each https://www.railwaygazette.com/vehicles/caf-wins-west-midlands-metro-battery-tram-order/54771.article Edited December 12, 2019 by ellanvannin2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yootalkin2me Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Derek Flint said: I wondered that, but if you were going to electrify, you’d be puttIng in the foundations to drop the poles into whilst you had it all dug up? woudn’t you? Or use battery packs and dc motors on the trams with charging docks at the tram terminal...not rocket science. Edited December 12, 2019 by yootalkin2me Just clicked on the link above...doh!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, yootalkin2me said: Or use battery packs and dc motors on the trams with charging docks at the tram terminal...not rocket science. Not very Victorian though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: Well these would look nice on the prom, around £4m each https://www.railwaygazette.com/vehicles/caf-wins-west-midlands-metro-battery-tram-order/54771.article CCed to Longworth et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 It'll be one of the finest state of the art heritage rail systems on the planet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Won't be cheap mind. Heritage or state of the art systems rarely are. Theres not many foolhardy or overflowing with cash enough to even consider combining them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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