Apple Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-wants-to-make-us-organ-donors-by-default/ Will there be sufficient safeguards in place to ensure mistakes can not be made ? Do we have the capacity and the expertise on the island to support this ? Not for me I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Apple said: Not for me I'm afraid. I can't understand why? But personally I have no problem with this. Good initiative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Apple said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-wants-to-make-us-organ-donors-by-default/ Will there be sufficient safeguards in place to ensure mistakes can not be made ? Do we have the capacity and the expertise on the island to support this ? Not for me I'm afraid. And if you needed a transplant? Should those who opt out of donating be opted out of receiving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Answer the first two questions I posed first then I can get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Apple said: Answer the first two questions I posed first then I can get back to you. I've opted out of answering those. I'm not that interested in your response anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, Apple said: Will there be sufficient safeguards in place to ensure mistakes can not be made ? What kind of mistakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Apple said: Answer the first two questions I posed first then I can get back to you. What mistakes do you envisage? You’re dead. Why should it matter? It won’t matter to you, you’re not here. Are your family so selfish that they’d object? What expertise is required? There’ll be an online registry of opt out. Cross referenced by name and NHS number, hopefully tied into the UK register. Really you’ve asked three questions. Capacity? Not quite sure of context? Capacity to deal with the opt out system? Capacity to make use of the increase in availability of organs? What? Not sure capacity to make use locally is a pre requisite. There’ll be some organs that can be used. Others can be “harvested” and used in UK. Most Manxies requiring transplants have the transplantation in the UK at appropriate centres. If you’re asking whether pathology have the capacity to tissue type, that’s a a technical issue. If they haven’t I hope they’ll develop it. Because I’ve had leukaemia my parts aren’t wanted. Although I opted in years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I don't think anyone would want my liver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 According to Perkins 98 % people in favour of opting out. 14 minutes ago, John Wright said: Are your family so selfish that they’d object? Inappropriate question. It isn't about my family. it is my pre death choice we are talking about. Family choice will not come into it. There are some in Nobles I would not have let operate on me, alive or dead. Human Tissue removal can be a highly specialised field. Assessing and diagnosing brain death is not an every day medical skill, even though it is practiced here daily. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: I don't think anyone would want my liver There are some that will try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Apple said: According to Perkins 98 % people in favour of opting out. Inappropriate question. It isn't about my family. it is my pre death choice we are talking about. Family choice will not come into it. There are some in Nobles I would not have let operate on me, alive or dead. Human Tissue removal can be a highly specialised field. Assessing and diagnosing brain death is not an every day medical skill, even though it is practice its here daily. There is a difference. So, you have the right to opt out to protect your corpse from the “butchers” you fear. Now, stop avoiding and deflecting and answer the question. If you opt out but need a transplant should you still be entitled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 35 minutes ago, Apple said: Answer the first two questions I posed first then I can get back to you. TBH, they can have anything useful from my body after I am dead. In fact they can have the whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Please don't make assumptions. I will describe my opinions in the way I determine, not based on anyone else's assumptions and language changes. We still had free speech last time I checked. Your question should be directed at Mr Perkins et al and see if it goes into the bill. If the law says not then there you go. I can live (or die) with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: TBH, they can have anything useful from my body after I am dead. In fact they can have the whole lot. When expertise and safeguards are in place then I would probably share that view. Until then, it's a No. As per my first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 If you don't like it - opt out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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