newaccount Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Use it or lose it. There's only so much capacity a small island with limited discretionary spend can support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) Hat tip to SeanM1997 LHR slot news. IOM is towards the bottom of the table so to speak 😁 https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/1733085052718710947?s=19 Edited December 8, 2023 by newaccount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 The lack of a Belfast route has been known for some time. Wannenburgh had a WQ in which was answered a couple of days ago (interestingly it was to DfE not DoI): “What analysis has been done of the potential loss to the Manx economy from the cessation of flights to both Belfast airports in the first quarter of 2024; what is being done to mitigate the loss; and whether his Department knew of the cessations before they were announced?” In answering the Honourable Member’s question, it is important to clarify that it is the Department’s understanding that whilst during 2023 direct flights to Belfast were provided by two airlines (easyJet and Emerald Airlines), Emerald Airlines did not have flights included in their schedule between the Isle of Man and Belfast City between the 8 th January and 7th March 2024. Whilst easyJet did originally have flights scheduled to and from Belfast International during the first quarter of 2024, it is understood that the airline ultimately took a commercial decision to cease services after the 1st January 2024 until the 1st April 2024 based on reduced passenger demand. The Department has not undertaken any formal analysis of the potential loss to the Isle of Man economy and whilst any such impact is likely to be minimal given the low demand leading to the reduction in scheduled flights, it is appreciated that the loss of regional connectivity is never welcome. During the period in question, flights to and from the island of Ireland continue to be available six days a week through Emerald Airlines service to Dublin with, as referenced above, direct flights to Belfast scheduled to recommence on the 7th March 2024. The Department was not aware of the easyJet’s decision to remove flights to Belfast International during the first quarter of 2024 in advance of the announcement, however, it is more generally aware that airlines constantly review their schedules and demand profiles and will make commercial decisions based on their own assessment. So he's just saying they're clueless. But whether DoI knew more - and indeed why easyJet cancelled if there was no longer competition is another matter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, newaccount said: Hat tip to SeanM1997 LHR slot news. IOM is towards the bottom of the table so to speak 😁 https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/1733085052718710947?s=19 So, this looks like the second daily IOM-LHR-IOM, using the flight numbers currently assigned to the evening LCY. This seems to confirm that LCY willl be getting the chop and we'll get two (daily??) LHR instead. Probably a good outcome, overall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerremonside Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, newaccount said: Hat tip to SeanM1997 LHR slot news. IOM is towards the bottom of the table so to speak 😁 https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/1733085052718710947?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerremonside Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Doesnt that only apply to Sundays fligh though? ( ......7)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, gerremonside said: Doesnt that only apply to Sundays fligh though? ( ......7)? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerremonside Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 47 minutes ago, newaccount said: yes So any news about what's happening during the week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaccount Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Why was London City Loganair cancelled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, newaccount said: Why was London City Loganair cancelled? Ask the Christmas Elf. What a load of bollocks that is btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, newaccount said: Use it or lose it. There's only so much capacity a small island with limited discretionary spend can support Can you engrave this into the brain of our Government and others who still dream we are Heathrow on Sea ! Edited December 9, 2023 by asitis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringy Rose Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 21 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: indeed why easyJet cancelled if there was no longer competition is another matter EasyJet will know their numbers, if there aren’t the pax in January they won’t fly. Manchester only goes on the weekend and even Liverpool isn’t daily in the winter. Perhaps Emerald would have kept going if they knew EasyJet were going to pull out, but hey ho. 13 hours ago, newaccount said: Why was London City Loganair cancelled? Very short notice cancellation, so I’m assuming the plane went tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Airport advising 3 hours delays on Gatwick flights due to ATC issues at Gatwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Banker said: Airport advising 3 hours delays on Gatwick flights due to ATC issues at Gatwick. NATs generated problem: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gatwick-airport-delays-air-traffic-control-b2461271.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanxpilot Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Ringy Rose said: Perhaps Emerald would have kept going if they knew EasyJet were going to pull out, but hey ho. This is one of the ‘benefits’ of the Open Skies Policy. Airlines can come and go as they please when it suits them. If routes were licensed and airlines had to enter into a contract with IOMG to serve them, this sort of thing wouldn’t happen. In this particular case, IOMG had no idea the route was being suspended until the public announcement was made. Back in the days of Manx, we used to operate at 29 seat Jetstream 41 to BHD and DUB. A perfectly sized aircraft to operate frequent services on a relatively lean route. It was a good route for Manx2/Citywing and was a shame that they weren’t professional enough to be allowed to continue operating. It’s no wonder EZY have decided it’s unviable for them to operate during the leaner months, simply too much capacity and not enough demand. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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