Brexit Penny Dropping?

[ManxTaxPayer]

On 9/1/2021 at 7:29 AM, wrighty said:

 Seems to be a shortage of workers in many sectors. Care, for example. 

They're better off in an Amazon warehouse. 

[ManxTaxPayer]

 

[ManxTaxPayer]

100,000 pigs.

[The Voice of Reason]

6 hours ago, ManxTaxPayer said:

 

And we have so many people on here whinging about what they see as the bureaucratic excesses of our own civil service. 
Hardly compares with Brussels 

[Freggyragh]

2 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

And we have so many people on here whinging about what they see as the bureaucratic excesses of our own civil service. 
Hardly compares with Brussels 

Brexit whoppers complaining that the EU has staff, when the UK Department of trade alone employs nearly 5,000 and can't even negotiate a good deal between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Farage should have done his job in Brussels and he would have understood the fishing situation, instead of spending his time selling selfies to the gammon. 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Freggyragh

[The Voice of Reason]

6 minutes ago, Freggyragh said:

Brexit whoppers complaining that the EU has staff, when the UK Department of trade alone employs nearly 5,000 and can't even negotiate a good deal between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Farage should have done his job in Brussels and he would have understood the fishing situation, instead of spending his time selling selfies to the gammon. 

I don’t have a lot of time for Farage, but that said Brexit would not have happened without him.

And for that alone he has my absolute admiration.

[quilp]

I bloody knew it! 

[ManxTaxPayer]

1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

I don’t have a lot of time for Farage, but that said Brexit would not have happened without him.

And for that alone he has my absolute admiration.

But the thing is, he didn't really want it to happen. He was just as surprised as Gove and Johnson. Shocked even. 

[ManxTaxPayer]

Businesses 'face staff shortages for TWO YEARS': 'Perfect storm' of Brexit and Covid will lead to bleak future due to lack of waiters, chefs and builders, experts warn

The Brexit government are in a bit of a dilemma it seems to me. Their ideological position on freedom of movement, even if that ideology is only skin deep for vote winning purposes, is going to look rather unwise if they start to relax it to stave off the much predicted imminent disaster. But it's inevitable that they will have to relax it. Isn't it? 

[ManxTaxPayer]

Getting Brexit Done seems to be taking the Johnson government a long time! One wonders if the deal they signed and lauded wasn't quite as good as they said it was. 

[manxman1980]

Of course it wasn't.   Nothing was ever going to be as good as full membership. 

[ManxTaxPayer]

"Britain runs out of sewage treatment chemicals"

So companies can dump untreated sewage into rivers. Nice. Weren't there supposed to be no downsides? Only considerable upsides? 

[Bombay Bad Boy]

13 hours ago, ManxTaxPayer said:

So companies can dump untreated sewage into rivers.

So are we now, literally as well as figuratively, up shit creek?

[P.K.]

Boris Johnson’s biggest lie about Europe is finally coming home to roost

From plummeting trade to drastic shortages of workers, needlessly leaving the single market has been disastrous

It was the big Brexit lie. No, not the £350m a week to spend on the NHS or the “bonfire” of red tape. The lie was that the shambles now enveloping British trade with Europe was an unavoidable price worth paying to leave the EU. That was rubbish.

In order to further his chances of becoming Tory leader Boris Johnson made two commitments. One was to resign from the EU, the other was to depart Europe’s customs union and single market, aspects of which embrace other non-EU states such as Norway. The second decision was an almost casual gesture to make him look macho to the party’s hardline Brexiters. It was not put to referendum and was beyond stupid.

No news item today is free of the consequences. Earlier this year, the effects of leaving the single market could be seen in plummeting trade with the continent, even accounting for the pandemic. Additional red tape is awesome. HMRC estimates traders will be handling 215m more import/export documents a year, at an estimated bureaucratic cost of £7.5bn a year. Tariffs may not apply but rules of origin and health standards do. Every truck, every cargo requires inspection.

As for migration, the overall shortage of seasonal farm labour, according to BBC Radio 4’s Farming Today, is 20% and often more. Fruit will rot in fields, pigs cannot get to abattoirs and Christmas turkeys will be a “nightmare”. Meanwhile, care homes in England are short of 170,000 staff, and delivery firms short of 100,000 drivers. Hotels have abandoned rooms and restaurant tables. Creative industries – worth £110bn to the UK economy – were forgotten by the Brexit negotiators and are now virtually isolated from Europe.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/06/boris-johnsons-biggest-lie-europe-coming-home-single-market

But hey, it's all trifling when compared to getting blue passports that make it harder to travel...

[manxman1980]

Unsolicited caller - "Have you ever been in a car crash that wasn't your fault?"

Me - "Yes, Brexit"