Declan

There's a technical area?

You'd think, but, say Tynwald a pass a motion indicating support for the provision to be free in Govt buildings. Then a few years down the line the CS stop it, call it a "cost saving" and it's pay rises all round!

I don't know how he managed that, but it's 69 dude! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_clubs_in_England_by_competitive_honours_won

To be fair to him, this started where you had the cheek "to fix" a post of mine that was specifically talking about the current situation.

It means a lot to me, it's part of the clubs ethos. However, if you're constantly having to come from behind to win, occasionally you won't. But also you're playing at peak intensity for 90 minutes every week, so it's not surprising if you run out of steam at the end of the season. You're selectively remembering the highlights of many years mainly in two-legged cup games). Remember under Paisley when Lawrenson would pass to Hansen who'd pass to Neil and then back to Lawrenson for minutes on end because we were 2-0 up? That's how Phil Neal didn't miss a game between 1976 and 1983. It's a great fun for the fans to always come from behind but going behind and fighting back would be an insane game plan and is a symptom of us not being quite there yet as we transition towards are next great team. (As an aside Shankly's teams drew more league games than Klopp's do. Klopp's league win % is 62.5% and Shankly's 52.4%. Before three points for a win teams settled for a draw because of the risk-reward ratio. (Incidentally in the Prem era Klopp is third manager for average points per game because he's had to chase the #1). )

I agree, a point or two at the end of the season can be down to good or bad fortune, but we were well behind last season. We've closed the gap this season, and I see it as plus point that we kept the challenge alive going into April. But even before the current blip, they were winning by two or three goals and we were coming from behind to win.

Ten Hag isn't the problem at United.

No, I'm saying we don't know whether he will be a success. But a Dutch manager could be successful in England, to think otherwise is stereotypical thinking. Somebody has to be the first one - it might be him. Or maybe we should just employ a Scotsman. Look at their success - Busby, Shankly, Dalglish, Graham, Ferguson (and 7 others). Yet Moyes and Souness weren't successes inheriting Champion teams that then went into decline. Anyway - it's not for a United fan to define how I feel about my team. I'm positive it'll be fine. We'll play attacking football. Win more than we lose. Be in the upper echolons of the league, have a run in a cup or Europe. Of course, we dream of more, but fans of most clubs would be happy with a season like. Look at it this way Chelsea fans always sing about Gerard falling over. Like that was such a crushing season. BUT my memory of that season is positive. We were miles behind at Christmas, went on crazy run, scoring loads despite a very limited defence, and somehow almost fluked the title. So when they sing about Gerard falling over I think of a fun season where we finished above them. So the current situation is - We're better than we were last season We've seen young players get better this season We've seen younger players step up and hint at good careers to come We've won a cup and qualified for the Champions League But we're not as good as City or Arsenal Towards the end of the season our tactics have been found out and we're not creating enough good chances. It's a blip at an unfortunate moment. They'll find a solution. The club infrastructure is fine - new training ground, increased capacity at Anfield Michael Edwards is back as Sporting Director - it's his recruitment that lead to Champions League and Premier Success and when he was away our recruitment became a weaker point (eg not refreshing the midfield earlier). The owners and sporting directors have a clear vision for the club. Everything that Jim Radcliffe has identified as needed at Utd is in place at Liverpool. It seems to me that United fans should be excited about the direction he's taking their club. So why shouldn't Liverpool fans be positive? Obviously, I'd prefer that Klopp was staying and I don't know enough about Slot to be excited by his appointment. But there are enough positives and I've been supporting the team long enough not to be gloom and doom.

Spanish managers before Benítez? French before Wenger? Germans before Klopp? Portuguese before Mourinho? I did kind of share your concern, but I think I was guilty of stereotype thinking.

I'm all for creators receiving due credit, but cut 'n' pasters?

Don't forget Steve McLaren.

Isn't that similar to due diligence on new business? Charity provides the details, trained decision maker reviews against relative rules. Higher value more complex charities go to a more senior staff member? Does the decision maker need to be a lawyer? What happens in all the rest of government where things are registered?

Why does this sit with the AG's office? Seems a straightforward admin job of maintaining the register, checking KYC, general correspondence. I doubt those functions sit with the legal function at any bank, insurance firm, or e-gambling office in town.

We've forgotten the rust on the slides of our childhood; we remember the sliding.

Wooosh.

Johan Cryuff?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68906421 Tatlockesque incorrectitude.

In these circumstances, the convention round here is "Nevermind" not "Nil". Or become a subscriber and you can delete posts.

He doesn't have the money.

"If I have a fish for tea the tide will come in tomorrow," said the old man. That night he had fish for tea and the next morning the high tide was lapping against the sea wall. "Told you," said the old man.

And you were proven wrong. They played their best football in the immediate aftermath of the announcement. The team isn't the finished article and come up short at the end of the season. Do you think "not being quite good enough" for lots of complex reasons is a less accurate explanation than "Liverpool would have won it if the manager hadn't said he was leaving" A cup (admittedly the wrong one) and champions league qualification is fine, about expectation and keeping the title challenge alive to mid April made it more fun, plenty of exciting comebacks. It's been a good season, maybe next season will be better. I've asked this before but it wasn't taken seriously, how does it look to fans of teams that spend all their time moving between league one and two to see Liverpool fans acting like this is a bad season? Isn't that entitled and arrogant?

That's potentially worse.

Surely somebody did make that up?

The South didn't matter because no-one from the Government will be standing there next time.

There are people who are unremittingly negative about everything politicians do. There's people on here who slag off COMIN for being useless, some backbenchers for asking lots of questions and being critical of government and other backbenchers for doing nothing. The cognitive dissonance must be deafening. Also woman politicians generally get it worse. But that's not an excuse to deflect criticism.