keyboarder Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 People who speed (and that includes excessive speed in unrestricted areas as well as breaking given speed limits) should be treated with the same hysterical severity as drunk drivers. It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 People need to remember that there are things we simply cannot discuss on here for good reason. As much as it sucks, our hands are tied. People with edited posts know exactly what they're doing, please stop. My own heartfelt, truthful and honest post. Mod deleted. There is a certain related topic we must not discuss. There are big rich bully boys out there. "Better a forum than no forum at all' I'll go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 This is the way I see it. This poor fella has died after a car crash and his inquest has been held. From reading the manx radio report I don't see anything discussed here that wasn't in that report. And also bear in mind that as callous as it sounds, you can't libel the dead. What can't we discuss here? Or are you alluding to a different incident that I haven't picked up on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 A different one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 My mistake! *backs out of thread* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Not commenting on this case in particular, but I agree with the poster above that no amount of legislation or regulation, with or without enforcement, will end deaths on our roads. Driving is dangerous, just as any form of transport apart from walking. Why is every fatal accident met with howls for all island speed limits, road changes, increased regulation and enforcement? It is as though all accidents are preventable by state intervention. Well, that is not the case and it never will be. Every driver has responsibility for how they drive and that they drive within their capabilities and the conditions prevailing. No amount of signage, happy or grumpy faces displayed at your speed will ever absolve the individual's responsibility for their own actions, nor will it have any impact on the reckless, irresponsible driver who will not give two hoots for whether they are breaking any speeding law. It is not that I am sanguine about road deaths, I just don't believe that ever increasing legislation will solve the problem, unless it is to have a man walking in front of each car with a red flag. Roads are dangerous, everyone should be educated to use them properly and responsibly. And that starts will enforcing the simple rules of the road that exist now (use of roundabouts, parking on zig zags, double parking, parking on double yellows, etc.) so that everyone focuses on the standard of their driving and actually starts to think about what they are doing behind the wheel. The average Manx driver has such an innate disregard (or ignorance) for the ordinary rules of the road that I think a lack of responsibility in driving is a cultural thing here. Instil that respect for the existing rules of the road and it may well spill over to an improvement in general driving standards and so reduce the number of fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 t no amount of legislation or regulation, with or without enforcement, will end deaths on our roads. Driving is dangerous, just as any form of transport apart from walking. Why is every fatal accident met with howls for all island speed limits, road changes, increased regulation and enforcement? It is as though all accidents are preventable by state intervention. Well, that is not the case and it never will be. Every driver has responsibility for how they drive and that they drive within their capabilities and the conditions prevailing. No amount of signage, happy or grumpy faces displayed at your speed will ever absolve the individual's responsibility for their own actions, nor will it have any impact on the reckless, irresponsible driver who will not give two hoots for whether they are breaking any speeding law. By your logic then the drink driving laws may as well be scrapped. And why not abolish speed limits altogether? The average Manx driver has such an innate disregard (or ignorance) for the ordinary rules of the road that I think a lack of responsibility in driving is a cultural thing here. This is quite simply nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 You're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I usually am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Right, you can leave the thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 My tuppence worth is, as horrible as it is with knowing the guy, the situation sounds like it has trouble written all over it. I say that with restraint because i'd known him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I usually am. a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentbob Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I usually am. a cunt. I think we have a perfect way to end the thread, could not have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cret Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I usually am. a cunt. The average Manx driver has such an innate disregard (or ignorance) for the ordinary rules of the road that I think a lack of responsibility in driving is a cultural thing here. This is quite simply nonsense. Although I agree with this. I would say maybe 1 in 3 or 4, but not the average Manx Driver. That said, do you mean Mnax or Manx resident driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I usually am. a cunt. I think we have a perfect way to end the thread, could not have said it better myself. You don't surprise me - Tango hasn't got a PHD in linguistics for nothing you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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