pongo Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 he could be kingmaker next time. he could be king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 he could be kingmaker next time. he could be king yes, the king of wan, or 'wanking' which is easier to associate with him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Department of Education and Children - Annie Craine Why the heck are they proposing a Minister for Children? It mirrors the UK's relatively new Department for Schools, Families and Children. Safeguarding means trying to stop them being abused, murdered, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 So how do you think the new COMIN will line up? The following seem natural progressions from their previous roles - Department of Community, Culture and Leisure - Phil Gawne Department of Economic Development - David Cretney Department of Education and Children - Annie Craine Department of the Environment - John Shimmin Department of Health Department of Home Affairs - Adrian Earnshaw Department of the Infrastructure - David Anderson Department of Social Care Department of the Treasury - Alan Bell Eddie Teare was responsible for both the remaining functions previously so will have to move to one or the other - a move away from Health may be politically useful so Social Care, that leaves Martin Quayle and the Dept of Health! Is there anyone who can come in from outside? My guess Economic Development Allan Bell (equivalent to Lord Mandelson in UK) Community, Culture and Leisure David Cretney get TT back Treasury Eddie Teare Health or Social Services Ann Craine Infrastructure John Shimmin done his time at DLGE Don't put Martyn Quayle in charge of anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt W E Johns Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Where's the Ministry of Airfield and Aircraft Statistics? I could do that for you Albert (I'd like a three year £9.7m deal like that bloke who is sorting my bank out) Also, could I have those flying ducks from your wall for my corporate headquarters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 The Dept of the Environment seems rather lightweight, when compared to the others. But it covers a big area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Immediate reaction - I see that this is being heralded as a "Massive Overhaul of Government" - IMO it is a rejigging of the Public Service not the Government. A lot has already been written on this Forum about the amount of political structure needed for 32,000 households. If we are talking government this does nothing to address that aspect of government. The Department of Economic Development sounds a good idea - hopefully it will have some challenging revenue and business generation targets to meet. The Department of Community, Culture and Leisure IMO could be split sensibly between Economic Development (Tourism), Environment and Infrastructure. is it a good idea to create a separate Dept of Social Care? Could it be split between Health, Environment and Treasury? From comments on this thread it also sounds as if the politocracy want to continue to fiddle with recommendations. The extent to which they push personal agendas from here will be critical in the effectiveness of what emerges. Hopefully they won't....but most likely they will. There are comments about the cost savings or lack thereof caused by restructurings. This really needs to be tied down. If staffing levels are maintained this will just add cost due to the expense not only of relocating, stationery etc (mentioned by AT) but due to the loss of momentum as people jockey for places. How will these changes be managed effectively and kept on time and budget? is some form of non-replacement and eraly retirement planned? My other immediate comment is will they move people around and protect 'seniority' or have a process to get the right people into the right jobs? Could this lead to a number of senior managers taking early retirement? Apologies for disjointed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThankU Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 And how many new highly paid Chief Executive jobs will be created, and more MHKs getting a bit of the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I just had a look at Alan Bell's budget speech from last year. Perhaps this year he'll say: 'this restructure will double the continued reduction of numbers of people working for government'? 2009 We have also to control the numbers of people working for Government, and the overall reduction of 2 in this figure, including temporary and contract staff, is a small step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThankU Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Phill Gawn was on MR saying that Government jobs will be lost with the proposed overhaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Department of Education and Children - Annie Craine Why the heck are they proposing a Minister for Children? It mirrors the UK's relatively new Department for Schools, Families and Children. Safeguarding means trying to stop them being abused, murdered, etc. I though that was the job of social services and Child Protection? What's new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 All this is merely an attempt by Tony Brown (or "Shitty" as he is known to his friends) to divert attention from the complete failure of himself and his gang of shitkickers, chimney sweeps etc. to properly resolve the reciprocal health care matter. The man is a waste of a perfectly good ovum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I though that was the job of social services and Child Protection? What's new? Nothing, just the proposed structure of government that provides those services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Phill Gawn was on MR saying that Government jobs will be lost with the proposed overhaul On MR now on 'Agenda' too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanxfella Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Massive Overhaul of Govt Depts proposed by Tony Brown Those who can, do. Those who can't reorganise. Tony Brown (no relative of mine I hope) - you're a waste of space! Oh great. We're re arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic and about to spend millions on (another) IOMG re-branding exercise - new letterheads, new websites, re painting buses, vans and trucks. More money being spent doing NOTHING of benefit to anyone but those who have devised this strategy as a ploy to stay in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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