notwell Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 If there were as many as that report states there would be a lot more prosecutions. The figures don't seem credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 There could be lots of factors here; some of which have already been touched on. It could also be a better detection rate given the authorities greater access to online activity and the funding and resources targeted at that detection. We're a small population compared to other jurisdictions with a long history of close monitoring and intrusion - I'd be surprised if much gets missed. The UK CEOP would be quite jealous of the powers and latitude of the Manx authorities in detecting and prosecuting this sort of activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The predicted response from the usual suspect already. One of those cases I linked to was caught with 900,000 images. So assuming it's an MT account every time he logs on or re boots his router a new MT IP gets assigned. So that's god knows how many thousands of Manx IP addresses associated with downloading 900,000 images from sites known to be hosting kiddy porn over a long period of time. I'd say, accepting Chinahands valid points about statistical bias, that one or two prolific online pervs downloading close to 1m pictures (like one already caught and prosecuted in the Manx Courts) could easily account for a lot of the spikes shown around Manx IP addresses. It's certainly worth debating some of the likely issues more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not saying you are wrong, but I suspect you might get a few detractors on that one SMUJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Shoe Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 If the figures are sincere, then it's probably a single server at one of our data centres acting as a proxy for a mutual interest group elsewhere in the world. That would easily explain it. But "Cathy Fox" is a moron. And her conclusions are imbecilic. Quote Manx Telecom [4] is now largely owned by Hg Capital which has a strong German link [5] Is this a possible factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mr Shoe said: If the figures are sincere, then it's probably a single server at one of our data centres acting as a proxy for a mutual interest group elsewhere in the world. That would easily explain it. But "Cathy Fox" is a moron. And her conclusions are imbecilic. That's sort of even worse if there's an online beast hosting site or proxy / VPN service sitting in the IOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I haven't read the contents of the link but do wonder how much of the traffic is down to VPNs routing via IOM/.im Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: That's sort of even worse if there's an online beast hosting site or proxy / VPN service sitting in the IOM. If there is they certainly aren't doing it on value for money grounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, woolley said: If there is they certainly aren't doing it on value for money grounds. Agree. If something like that was going on it will be a pervs proxy run by pervs or perv sympathizers so actually that's sort of even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's bad from a reputational point of view. I know it is not normally a great idea to give these things credence by the oxygen of publicity and there is a strong argument for just ignoring it, but if the authorities are sure of their ground could it be worth taking the intitiative and demanding a retraction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It is just some amateurish WordPress blog, not even a paid for one with its own domain name, so let's not get overly excited here. It has no more merit or interest than a random thread in the General section of this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Shoe Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 There was a similar study around gambling performed by some bloke from Onchan. Turns out the Isle of Man has more online Poker players than the rest of the world put together. In fact, they were all in the same building! Spooky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, woolley said: It's bad from a reputational point of view. I know it is not normally a great idea to give these things credence by the oxygen of publicity and there is a strong argument for just ignoring it, but if the authorities are sure of their ground could it be worth taking the intitiative and demanding a retraction? Yes challenging them might be the way to go. Then again we've got one case gone through the courts of one guy on his own who has downloaded close to 1m images of kiddy porn. The number of allocated Manx IPs just to that one person over several thousand (I assume) log in sessions to get hold of 1m pics could reasonably have created some of the anomalies. Therefore it might not be defendable if challenged. The number of cases coming before the Courts here though is worrying even ignoring this web data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, woolley said: Unless of course the long rumoured and much denied relocation of UK perverts to the Island has more substance to it than we realise! Even then, the stats would still be incredible. 50-odd years ago there was substance to that rumour although download speeds weren't so great then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mr Shoe said: There was a similar study around gambling performed by some bloke from Onchan. Turns out the Isle of Man has more online Poker players than the rest of the world put together. In fact, they were all in the same building! Spooky. Brilliant. So by the same rule all we have to do is find the giant knocking shop and we've cracked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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