Mossad Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 hours ago, PottyLisa said: Proportional, now that's a word not often related to Isreal. Oh, and you can not particularly like or agree with the Isreali government without being an Anti Semite y'know. You just have to be a little flexible in your thinking. These people don't just dislike the Israeli Government, though, do they? They are obsessed with Israeli and only Israel. They are racists who believe certain areas of the middle east should be "Judenfrei" zones. They are obsessed with Israel and only Israel. They turn a blind eye to all the terrorist states in the region and even accuse Israel of some ridiculous conspiracy of being behind ISIS. It doesn't get more stupid than that. If someone just criticises the Israeli Government, fine, but you have to put it in the context of their full posting record, which in Richard's case points to a deep-seated hatred of Jews. It makes it impossible to take anything he has to say on Israel seriously without bearing in mind he's an anti-semite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossad Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: It's impossible to be an anti-semite if you support the palestinian cause. Don't talk rubbish. The term "anti-semite" was originally coined in the 19th century by Wilhelm Marr, a German who hated Jews, to give a more respectable name for hostility towards the Jews. The fake national group known as the "Palestinians" hadn't even been invented until the 1960s and there were no Arabs living in Germany at that time, or not enough to warrant inclusion as the subjects of a unique form of racist bigotry. Marr was exclusively using the term to refer to hatred of Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 Yeah whatever. Do you think israel should be influencing british politics as much as they are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 Or more perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossad Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 No countries other than the UK should be influencing the UK Parliament. That includes the Saudis, Arab Gulf states, the EU, the US, China, Israel ---- everyone. And that also goes for corporations, many of which are more powerful than nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 What and where the influence stinky? Without the usual zionist-conspiracy stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-truth-about-the-uks-powerful-jewish-lobbies-9702262.html%3famp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_Kingdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossad Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 So no interference at all then. The "Israel lobby" are British people (both Jews and non-Jews), not the Israeli Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'll be honest. I haven't really got the headspace for this tonight. Plus, you've just outed yourself on the other thread and will probably be banned within the next hour. so it hardly seems worthwhile. If you return as colonel decker i may consider replying tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'm convinced that antisemitism is as institutionalised in British society as racism was in the Metropolitan Police. No matter how much introspection and analysis, subtle and insidious antisemitism refuses to be seen or accepted in the same blind manner race and culture was percieved in one of our oldest and most respected institutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 12 hours ago, quilp said: What about having a dig at those surrounding states who fund and supply hamas, hezbolllah etc., and the continuation and indoctrination of Jew-hatred by wall-eyed, spittle-flecked imams who encourage their adherents to creep up on innocent people and stab them, or run them over, or blow themselves up amongst kids whilst screaming "allah is the greater." Ya know, just for balance... When Israel can flout international law and disregard the Geneva Convention with impunity how exactly can we talk about balance? Hard to hold the moral high ground when there are more than enough videos of IDF soldiers killing children. I might have a bit more sympathy for Israeli Government if they weren't systematically commiting genocide. At just to make it clear for the multiple Hasbara-bots we seem to have developed (or the one troll we cant seem to shake), my condemnation of the Israeli Government's acts are not the same as me praising or legitimising the terrorist acts of Hamas/Hezbollah/IS or any other group. I do not, have not and will not condone terrorism of any kind, state or paramilitary group. But by their continued and sustained campaign of genocide and land grabbing, the Israeli Government (not the people or the Jewish Faith) deserve everything they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Patel has been called back to London from a long-arranged trip to Africa. It looks as if May can afford to loose her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 12 hours ago, quilp said: What and where the influence stinky? Without the usual zionist-conspiracy stuff... You know the usual...sending large sums of money to "aid" Israel, "friendly" arms sales, agreeing to turn a blind eye to certain "indiscretions"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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quilp Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Israel doesn't need your sympathy RIchard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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