b4mbi Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Here My opinion it's not good enough to say we've never had a problem in the past, so we will just hope for the best that the worst doesn't happen. If it does, it could be weeks before a salvage company is mobilised to remove the 'blockage' Then shelves would really be empty. Where is the contingency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Peel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Port e Vullen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Port Grenaugh. They are building a port there now. Chapel Beach, P St M, is the wet weather alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Ronaldsway, and if that goes down, Jurby. We wouldn't starve, and the speed which heavy salvage vessels can be mustered is surprising. The only hold up would be the surrounding investigation. There is always a way to fettle emergencies. Its just nice to have that plan in place in some shape or form to pick off the shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Stevens Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Is there still a govt strategic stockpile they used to hold enough for three months plus fuel..? I was once told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Barrie Stevens said: Is there still a govt strategic stockpile they used to hold enough for three months plus fuel..? I was once told. the plantations.... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 We certainly wouldn't starve. Our farming communities are handsomely rewarded for keeping arable land, er, arable. Veg, including our staple, spuds would be readily available..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 So this is being highlighted by the successor to the Shipping Association? The same group that lobbied for the giant version of the Douglas Port development plans? Take it with a kilo of salt. The airport could handle some pretty decent transport aircraft in case of dire need. Peel has the ability to handle small tankers and coasters, Ramsey already handles small general cargo ships. In decent weather, there's the outside berth on Victoria Pier, which could accommodate a lift off/lift on container service like the one that Mezeron operated for a year or so several years back. OK, the capacity would be limited, but the contingency is to rub by and clear the obstruction from Douglas Harbour. It would be pretty dire for a few weeks. All the big food shops rely on drop trainers coming in overnight from Heysham on the Ben. Fuels would be a worry, I'm not sure whether small tankers alongside in Peel can off-load direct to road tankers, or whether more of a shore-side facility is required, like the one by the tanker berth in Douglas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Wouldn't they just bring stuff into Foxdale by submarine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, guzzi said: The airport could handle some pretty decent transport aircraft in case of dire need. What aircraft do you have in mind or know of that could land fully laden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benl Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Didn't M&S plan to bring food in by plane once using a C-130? I thought they only needed a rough strip. Not quite the Berlin airlift but still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: What aircraft do you have in mind or know of that could land fully laden? Any of the passenger types we currently accommodate, in freight or Quick Change fit-out. It's usually take off-that is performance limited rather than landing, and they would be going out empty, apart from containers. They don't have to be fully laden, anyway, if that is a limitation. And if it gets really dire, there are quite a few military types that have short field performance that would sneer at a 2100 meter paved runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Announce an oil find the day after a harbour blockage and see what just can land here fully loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 tesco's have used military cargo planes in the past to supply scottish islands when the boats couldn't sail...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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