hagar the horrible Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Granada news last night, IOM enterprise development scheme abandoned, no longer necessary because our economy is doing so well, does this mean the toilet tax can be abandoned too? can completely free bus travel for over 60's be reinstated? will the Chrismas bonus for OAP's be raised up back to the previous level, I am delighted our economy is doing so well, it must be due to the 30 million take at TT, wonderful, hurrah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 E-Gaming. Everybody else is struggling. Our eggs are in one basket. If they fail, we all suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 57 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: E-Gaming. Everybody else is struggling. Our eggs are in one basket. If they fail, we all suffer. Same happened when the finance industry took over. Tourism went - all our eggs in the one basket. Strange how those in power at the time never seem to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillside Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 BBC North West news also ran this, including the comment that the scheme had cost £3M and created 16 jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p3t3 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, Neil Down said: Same happened when the finance industry took over. Tourism went - all our eggs in the one basket. Strange how those in power at the time never seem to learn Alternatively you could take the more accurate view that tourism was long dead and the finance / film / gambling industries have been propping it up ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagar the horrible Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Hillside said: BBC North West news also ran this, including the comment that the scheme had cost £3M and created 16 jobs. My bad, it was BBC north west I saw it on not Granada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, p3t3 said: Alternatively you could take the more accurate view that tourism was long dead and the finance / film / gambling industries have been propping it up ever since. Tourism hardly "dead" it certainly took a massive nose dive and when the Island embraced finance / film / gambling, not a lot was done to encourage tourism. Several half arsed attempts and that's it. Couple this with the lack of hotels on the island and we're back to all our eggs in the one basket again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Neil Down said: Couple this with the lack of hotels on the island and we're back to all our eggs in the one basket again It might even be worse than that, this time. When the finance sector was in full flow those who quoted "one basket" were regularly assured that it was "diverse" and would last eternity. How "diverse" is e-gaming, either in comparison or otherwise? Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Holy thread duplication batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Non-Believer said: It might even be worse than that, this time. When the finance sector was in full flow those who quoted "one basket" were regularly assured that it was "diverse" and would last eternity. How "diverse" is e-gaming, either in comparison or otherwise? Genuine question. Not very diverse at all. It will go somewhere else eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 So, does this (and this) mean there's to be a free-for-all, for mates of mates? I'm very concerned that there'll be almost zero independent adjudication and outside expert opinion on current and future applications. Whatever the demerits of the SPARK relationship/experience the scheme had some oversight at least on an ongoing basis. The new arrangements, seems to me, is that we won't know if there's been a fuck up until it's too late and of course no one who will hold there hands up and take responsibility because it will be a collective decision based on people, bar one, who will have bugger all idea of how these things work or have ANY experience in business at a practical level (present Minister excepted of course with his online TT shop!). After all, the Isle of Man....Where You Can (with other people's money). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craggy_steve Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: So, does this (and this) mean there's to be a free-for-all, for mates of mates? I'm very concerned that there'll be almost zero independent adjudication and outside expert opinion on current and future applications. Whatever the demerits of the SPARK relationship/experience the scheme had some oversight at least on an ongoing basis. The new arrangements, seems to me, is that we won't know if there's been a fuck up until it's too late and of course no one who will hold there hands up and take responsibility because it will be a collective decision based on people, bar one, who will have bugger all idea of how these things work or have ANY experience in business at a practical level (present Minister excepted of course with his online TT shop!). After all, the Isle of Man....Where You Can (with other people's money). Note the new "Digital Creative Fund". Not sure why this needs a carve out from the replacement EDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 The last scheme was so beset with T&C and looking to invest in only guaranteed success that they couldn’t give the money away. You should expect a 30-40% fail rate. Losing all or most of the cash invested. It’s the winners who make it worthwhile. It’s a huge attrition rate. But I suspect that’s not politically or publicly acceptable. Imagine the faux ( or maybe real ) outrage on here and FB IoM Politics pages. Of course, apart from cash, most applicants for dragon type investment are looking for the added value that contacts and mentoring can bring. That may be a conspicuous absence in an IoMG Scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Why can’t they just be honest? It was a shit scheme, badly planned and executed, and they got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, John Wright said: The last scheme was so beset with T&C and looking to invest in only guaranteed success that they couldn’t give the money away. You should expect a 30-40% fail rate. Losing all or most of the cash invested. It’s the winners who make it worthwhile. It’s a huge attrition rate. But I suspect that’s not politically or publicly acceptable. Imagine the faux ( or maybe real ) outrage on here and FB IoM Politics pages. Of course, apart from cash, most applicants for dragon type investment are looking for the added value that contacts and mentoring can bring. That may be a conspicuous absence in an IoMG Scheme. But instead of relaxing the T&C's they've opted for virtually no independent scrutiny at all. It'll all end in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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