Neil Down Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 That being said, everything they do takes longer than normal workforces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Gizo said: I have to disagree, the finish is a gravel finish and unfinished in parts and will only be suitable for certain bikes. It doesn’t take the regular road user off the road. The peel/Douglas path is the perfect opportunity to create a proper cycleway where people can commute to work by bike and to use leisurely however the DOI have missed out on this opportunity again. Half thought out, half baked and doesn’t do what it can do. Makes you wonder if they are actually talking to sustrans. It would be a massive missed opportunity if they don't build one along the MER. They could link it up with the old Ramsey - Peel railway line too and create a round the island route (well northern half). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: It would be a massive missed opportunity if they don't build one along the MER. They could link it up with the old Ramsey - Peel railway line too and create a round the island route (well northern half). Hey, we could even relocate the TT onto this track as well! Great idea!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: They could link it up with the old Ramsey - Peel railway line too and create a round the island route (well northern half). The fly in your ointment is they removed all the bridges years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Have they gotten rid of all the gatee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, finlo said: The fly in your ointment is they removed all the bridges years ago. Well if they build a bit of an incline on either side of the gap, the cyclists could gather speed and jump across. Makes as much sense as the original plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: They could link it up with the old Ramsey - Peel railway line too and create a round the island route (well northern half). The section between Ramsey and Sulby was sold off. The route no longer exists. The idea of turning half of the MER track into a cycle route is daft. The whole thing should be turned into a cycle route. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Have they gotten rid of all the gatee What’s a gatee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Incidentally Cyprus didn't really suffer much from an influx of refugees associated with Merkel's statements (the specific effects of which were overstated and would only have a very short term influence). They do have a much more recent upsurge in applications, but those have more to do with the underlying reasons for people fleeing their homes, such as war, political repression and climate change. Very easy to assert and downplay the crisis from the comfort and safety of the Isle of Man. You have to take into account the relatively small population compared with other states. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/11/cyprus-the-new-entry-point-to-europe-for-refugees-and-migrants The island has exceeded every other EU member state in asylum claims in 2018, recording the highest number per capita with almost 6,000 applications for a population of about 1 million. I know frightened people who live full time in coastal areas there that have suffered the disruption of regular arrivals by sea of desperate and, in many cases, aggressive people. The initial influx at Merkel's behest showed the way and others have followed. They then became frustrated as countries further north closed the gates. https://www.dw.com/en/refugee-crisis-in-cyprus-close-to-tipping-point/a-50352565 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, pongo said: The section between Ramsey and Sulby was sold off. The route no longer exists. The idea of turning half of the MER track into a cycle route is daft. The whole thing should be turned into a cycle route. You really see no value in Victorian heritage at all do you? The MER is globally unique. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Indeed the idea that somewhere in the EU (like say Luxembourg or Malta) could be a tax haven is completely absurd. I mean it would be like using Ireland or the Netherlands to channel corporate profits. Who would dream of doing such a thing? Yes the Isle of Man should live entirely on its own resources with never any handouts from EU taxes like VAT that comes from other countries such as the UK. Yes, some of these countries have certain structures that make avoidance possible - all currently under intense scrutiny through the proposed BEPS legislation, incidentally - but none of them are tax havens in the comprehensive sense of the word. All have corporate, capital and inheritance taxes whereas we do not, and personal taxes are far higher than ours. Are you suggesting that our regime would pass muster in the EU to enable us to run the economy we have hosted hitherto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, woolley said: Where? Obviously not here. If we were in the EU, we could not have taken the road we have done for the last few decades. There would be no finance sector to speak of as they would not have tolerated our tax haven regime. It depends what you want to be. Do you want to be the EU's bitch as a backwater that earns nothing itself and lives off EU handouts from taxpayers elsewhere? At least Cyprus has the Mediterranean climate, but it has also been dumped on by the EU as a result of Merkel's unbelievably naive refugee policy. Sorry, I thought you were referring to Majorca being nice and quiet and having a population of 25k But whose bitch are we now? Edited October 22, 2019 by Non-Believer Extra bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I mean gates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Sorry, I thought you were referring to Majorca being nice and quiet and having a population of 25k But whose bitch are we now? Oh, I see! Thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, woolley said: You really see no value in Victorian heritage at all do you? The MER is globally unique. Lots of things are unique without being particularly special. The tourist trams being an obvious example. But the route is amazing and special. World class. It's got the potential to be reborn as a fantastic cycling destination and also an excellent facility for locals. And make no mistake - there is much more local interest in cycling than there is in trams. Cycling attracts a younger crowd with money. And will cost government a lot less too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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