Lagman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Donald Trumps said: The idealism of our right wing government & their obsession that capitalism will provide for their huge establishment? They 're about as right wing as the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Numbnuts said: Oil ! Russia and USA totally driven by that Russia has it's own oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Actually there's not that much oil in Syria. At least compare to Iraq or the Gulf states. There's enough for its own domestic needs and enough to fight over internally (as we saw with ISIS) but not enough to invade specifically for. What Syria is about is the playing out of various proxy battles by outside forces that have interests there or want to have them (US/Russia/Turkey/Saudi/Israel/Iran etc). One of those countries particularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Chris C said: So if it's "much better to send money" to help "the many". Then why are we sending considerably less than a tenth of the UN recommended abount as a percentage of GNI? Surely if we sent our fair share we could help many more then at present? I don't care what the U.N. wants or recommends, it should be dissolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 12 hours ago, hissingsid said: Who sent money to help the bombed out and maimed civilians after the Second World War in Britain.....no one. Wow! What a way to Marshall your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 12 hours ago, hissingsid said: Who sent money to help the bombed out and maimed civilians after the Second World War in Britain.....no one. Well the Americans did actually. In very large amounts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan#Expenditures Everyone thinks that the Marshall Plan was about rebuilding mainland Europe but actually the UK received more than any other country and over twice the amount that (West) Germany did. About 15% was loans, but the rest was direct grants. Of course Marshall aid was not completely altruistic. It was designed to reinforce American influence in Europe and to provide markets for US goods by reviving the economies of the countries there. That's why it wasn't given just to countries that had been US allies or even to those that had been defeated and had their economies ruined in the process, but also to those that had been neutral, such as Sweden, Ireland and Turkey[1], though these tended to have a higher loan element. Similarly British foreign aid often comes with strings attached (using it to buy British products or services for example) and the budget has increasing been used to cover spending by other Departments such as Defence. That's why the Conservatives love to denounce such spending while continuing to do it. It's not that they're softhearted underneath, it's that it's often used as a slush fund. [1] Wiki rather oddly includes Iceland in the neutrals, which might be technically true at the start of WWII, but it hardly remained so after the British invasion. Edited to add: Posted before I saw @Bobbie Bobster's more succinct comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Lagman said: Russia has it's own oil. Yes your right but it's economic effect has a world wide effect. Supply and demand and the big suppliers control the markets . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 17 hours ago, Rog said: And that is why Russia stepped in to support The legitimate Syrian government. To defend its own interests, especially it's military harbour facilities and intelligence centres in Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Grounds Keeper Willy said: FFs that was 70 years ago. That’s really digging deep into the mound of prejudices to attempt to justify a blinkered view. I don't see the likes of Dubai doing much to help with these things either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 December Tynwald Syrian Refugees (Public Petition) The Hon. Member for Garff (Mrs Caine) to move – That Tynwald takes note of the Public Petition of Joseph Locke, Alex Kissack and others [PP No 2019/0160] relating to Syrian Refugees, and agrees to establish a Select Committee of three Members to investigate the feasibility of the Isle of Man taking in Syrian refugees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rog Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said: December Tynwald Syrian Refugees (Public Petition) The Hon. Member for Garff (Mrs Caine) to move – That Tynwald takes note of the Public Petition of Joseph Locke, Alex Kissack and others [PP No 2019/0160] relating to Syrian Refugees, and agrees to establish a Select Committee of three Members to investigate the feasibility of the Isle of Man taking in Syrian refugees. An incredibly naive woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 May receive the support of LegCo but it'd be astonishing if it received the support of the House of Keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Don't we already have 40,000+ refugees here from the adjacent isle? Most of them integrate into our society, there are some complete whoppers but that can be expected from in any group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, foxdaleliberationfront said: Don't we already have 40,000+ refugees here from the adjacent isle? Most of them integrate into our society, there are some complete whoppers but that can be expected from in any group. When did you arrive then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Donald Trumps said: December Tynwald Syrian Refugees (Public Petition) The Hon. Member for Garff (Mrs Caine) to move – That Tynwald takes note of the Public Petition of Joseph Locke, Alex Kissack and others [PP No 2019/0160] relating to Syrian Refugees, and agrees to establish a Select Committee of three Members to investigate the feasibility of the Isle of Man taking in Syrian refugees. If they do then it's time to get rid of all of them, government,legco, freemason's- All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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