woolley Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 "Us" was correct in context. "We" is incorrect. It isn't optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, woolley said: "Us" was correct in context. "We" is incorrect. It isn't optional. I don’t agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJ Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Nobody here but we chickens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, dilligaf said: I don’t agree It's not a matter for agreement or disagreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, woolley said: It's not a matter for agreement or disagreement. Would one start a sentence with “Us English” or would one say “We English” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, woolley said: It's not a matter for agreement or disagreement. Sorry, but this IS Manx Forums. Everything can be agreed or disagreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Would one start a sentence with “Us English” or would one say “We English” ? Of course not, but he didn't start a sentence with it, did he? If the sentence started "We English.............(are going to do something)..." - then you need "we" as the subject pronoun. If (as in the case here) "(something is happening to) us English." - then you need "us" as the object pronoun. Think: "We (English) wish you goodnight." versus "Goodnight from us (English)." and you will have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 5 hours ago, chancer said: This is a particularly poisonous thread that the Moderators should close down. Any of you whinging bastards are free to stand for MHK and push on to be the Chief Minister if you chose. Fancy having a go and have to put up with keyboard warriors telling you where you went wrong? If not, shut your Manx Crabby shit-holes and fuck off somewhere else to live. I have to say Howard you have improved tremendously since your first public announcement surrounding Coronavirus, I was one of your early keyboard critics but praise were it’s due you can now almost speak fast and fluid. You’re doing a sterling job. I don’t envy you, particularly when the media ask questions you’ve already answered in your opening speech, it’s hard not to show the frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Totally agree with chancer, there are some people on this forum who are so bitter and twisted it is unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, woolley said: Of course not, but he didn't start a sentence with it, did he? If the sentence started "We English.............(are going to do something)..." - then you need "we" as the subject pronoun. If (as in the case here) "(something is happening to) us English." - then you need "us" as the object pronoun. Think: "We (English) wish you goodnight." versus "Goodnight from us (English)." and you will have it. It’s actually ‘you’ English. As in ‘You English can shut up now thanks’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Uhtred said: It’s actually ‘you’ English. As in ‘You English can shut up now thanks’. If I could give you 5 likes for that, I would. Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, woolley said: Of course not, but he didn't start a sentence with it, did he? If the sentence started "We English.............(are going to do something)..." - then you need "we" as the subject pronoun. If (as in the case here) "(something is happening to) us English." - then you need "us" as the object pronoun. Think: "We (English) wish you goodnight." versus "Goodnight from us (English)." and you will have it. He’s Manx don’t you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, hissingsid said: Totally agree with chancer, there are some people on this forum who are so bitter and twisted it is unbelievable. Only some??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Uhtred said: It’s actually ‘you’ English. As in ‘You English can shut up now thanks’. We English have feelings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Uhtred said: It’s actually ‘you’ English. As in ‘You English can shut up now thanks’. And of course you don't have the same problem with this, because one of the vagaries of English is that in the case of the second person, the subject pronoun and object pronoun, both singular and plural, male and female, are all covered by the one word - you. Stupid language! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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