Declan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Passing Time said: Next week’s print will no doubt carry an apology on page 15 in the bottom left hand corner in size 3 font They’ve nothing to apologise. Perfectly reasonable question. It’s the “organisers” that need to apologise. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Newbie said: No-one is making the issue about a dog tag. The fact is that this particular issue was about a dog tag No it’s about the incorrect identification, the delay in recognising acknowledging the error, and the lack of empathy in the message where their error was finally admitted. The switched dog-tag is a contributory factor to the first but it’s not a free pass on the rest. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Declan said: They’ve nothing to apologise. Perfectly reasonable question. It’s the “organisers” that need to apologise. Was titling the post "TT organisers' huge mistake" when they clearly didn't have a clue who made any mistake reasonable? Or was it inflammatory bollocks from a shitrag? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I often wonder if there is an ongoing debate on Nepalese internet forums about the morality and ethics of people dying attempting to climb Mount Everest. And if there is, whether the pro climbing posters reference the Isle of Man TT deaths ( “doing what they loved” etc) to support their argument. I have never wondered that. It a silly analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, Happier diner said: I have never wondered that. It a silly analogy. No it’s not. It’s completely valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, HeliX said: Was titling the post "TT organisers' huge mistake" when they clearly didn't have a clue who made any mistake reasonable? Or was it inflammatory bollocks from a shitrag? Whilst I agree the main fault is with the chaps that swapped and sadly died. However there are still some factors that the organisers and the wider police/coroner/health need to shoulder some responsibility. Did they stress the importance of the tags to the riders. Did they know that this swapping was common Is a tag a proper means of identifying a body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: No it’s not. It’s completely valid. What. One being a natural feature of the earth. Albeit a big one, it's a mountain. And the other being an organised race on a man made feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, Happier diner said: What. One being a natural feature of the earth. Albeit a big one, it's a mountain. And the other being an organised race on a man made feature? Or, one being a man-made course around a natural topography and the other being a man made course around a natural topography. Easy to see the difference. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Happier diner said: What. One being a natural feature of the earth. Albeit a big one, it's a mountain. And the other being an organised race on a man made feature? So a jumping into an active volcano competition would be OK then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Kopek said: Which means the organisers didn't follow their own rules? That is, to check ident tags!!!! Max, who understands this more than any of us, hints that this is not unusual, lucky rabbits foot style, it's something that should have been taken into consideration? You are entitled to your opinion but why try to engineer every situation into a pro TT argument when obviously there are two sides this argument? It's not something I or anyone in the organisation, had ever heard of before this as far as I am aware. I would have said that it is very unusual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: So a jumping into an active volcano competition would be OK then? yes, put your name down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Declan said: They’ve nothing to apologise. Perfectly reasonable question. It’s the “organisers” that need to apologise. What, because the coroner's department misidentified the body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gladys said: Or, one being a man-made course around a natural topography and the other being a man made course around a natural topography. Easy to see the difference. There is no course or path up Everest. Neither natural, worn not man made. I can assure you. No one makes an event up Everest. The only thing in common is death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Did they know that this swapping was common For arguments sake let's say it is and they do - now what? You can't assume they've swapped. You can't assume they've not swapped. The fault still lies with the swappers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Attempting to make an analogy with the TT and Mount Everest is just desperation. If you can't come up with a valid comparison, just make a foolish one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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