Blade Runner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 13 hours ago, Happier diner said: What is IOM building knowledge. Are they different here. The only contractor I know is Ferncroft. They are a UK firm but employ staff from here. They have an IOM office. IOM Building knowledge is little things like not being able to replace workers at the drop of the hat. Anything a little out of the ordinary material wise is not stocked on the rock and getting it takes time for shipment. Very few specialist contractors, Asbestos removal being one although I think Island Drainage and JCK also do asbestos removal. Material costs, you would be shocked how many have priced work on the rock and caught a cold when they see the price of materials there. Imagine what it costs to ship a container of insulation. Plant hire, you cant just make a call and have a tower crane on site, I understand at the moment you cant even hire a van based welfare unit on the island, these are things that UK contractors take for granted but IOM contractors allow for, that's the difference. Yes all it means is a bit more planning/ programming but it is not what a lot of them expect, like I said, that fact that MDC complained at a public meeting about the lack of asbestos contractors shows a lack of IOM building knowledge which does not inspire confidence. Edited April 14 by Blade Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopsaa Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 The size of the wind turbines, presumably we are going to have to build new roads to access the beautiful heathland they are going to be built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, hoopsaa said: The size of the wind turbines, presumably we are going to have to build new roads to access the beautiful heathland they are going to be built in. Doubt it - plenty here accessed via tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, GD4ELI said: Doubt it - plenty here accessed via tracks. Yes. Just tracks. The ones proposed here are in a very small area. Therr are already tracks onto it. It won't be an issue at all. Minimal impact on the heathland. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Yes. Just tracks. The ones proposed here are in a very small area. Therr are already tracks onto it. It won't be an issue at all. Minimal impact on the heathland. Gives the anti-anything brigade something to moan about though. Plenty of turbines round here, not a big issue at all. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 52 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Plenty of turbines round here, not a big issue at all. Gives the anti-anything brigade something to moan about though And why not? E.g., wind turbines in England are eligible for grants including “RCEF or its urban equivalent, UCEF” of up to £100,000…etc. It is not about naysayers, it is about having realistic expectations about how much the proposed IOM wind farms will actually cost, and what benefits these farms will actually bring. If recent projects like the Liverpool Dock are a good guide then the final cost will be more like £100m than £40m, and the electricity produced will be intermittent. Incidentally, there is also the uncertain cost of the proposed electricity Interconnector to the UK. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 9 minutes ago, code99 said: And why not? E.g., wind turbines in England are eligible for grants including “RCEF or its urban equivalent, UCEF” of up to £100,000…etc. It is not about naysayers, it is about having realistic expectations about how much the proposed IOM wind farms will actually cost, and what benefits these farms will actually bring. If recent projects like the Liverpool Dock are a good guide then the final cost will be more like £100m than £40m, and the electricity produced will be intermittent. Incidentally, there is also the uncertain cost of the proposed electricity Interconnector to the UK. So the IOM government gives a grant to the MUA which it owns one way or another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, GD4ELI said: So the IOM government gives a grant to the MUA which it owns one way or another. That's just what I though. Some people are so thick it's unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 The utmost discipline required, sayeth Alf moving his latest moves towards more transparency. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian rush Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/14/2024 at 2:55 PM, code99 said: Incidentally, there is also the uncertain cost of the proposed electricity Interconnector to the UK. There may be cost uncertainty but it’s got to happen whether with or without wind turbines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tynwald-approves-additional-2-3-million-for-summerhill-view-care-home/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/almost-two-tonnes-of-meat-disposed-of-at-meat-plant-this-month/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/date-for-first-sailing-to-new-liverpool-terminal-still-unknown/ financial discipline in action Edited April 17 by english zloty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Has he finished his dream and woken up yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, x-in-man said: Has he finished his dream and woken up yet? I think he's still tripping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Does he really think we are all idiots and totally gullible . Every day it seems it gets worse . AC ‘s incredible plan which as far as I can see has achieved nothing . Pity he just couldn’t just admit it and we could all work together to right the wrongs. First step should be a assesment of all staff in the departments by a truly independent auditors and a willingness to act positively on the findings. Yes I know , it’s not happening !! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, english zloty said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tynwald-approves-additional-2-3-million-for-summerhill-view-care-home/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/almost-two-tonnes-of-meat-disposed-of-at-meat-plant-this-month/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/date-for-first-sailing-to-new-liverpool-terminal-still-unknown/ financial discipline in action They believe in money no object, and IOMG must have a team working 24/7 taking care of the magic money trees behind Government Offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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