A Conspiracy Theory - or something else?

[manxman1980]

14 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Because what Malcolm Roberts is saying will affect every one of us.

What aspect of Nigel Lawson's crew do you believe we should be paying attention to?

Not sure what that connection is, however, Tufton Street is full of Independent Think Tanks with questionable or hidden funding which have a tendency to be filled by Tory Party members.  These "Think Tanks" seem to have a surprising amount of traction and respect in the media.

[ricardo]

34 minutes ago, manxman1980 said:

Not sure what that connection is, however, Tufton Street is full of Independent Think Tanks with questionable or hidden funding which have a tendency to be filled by Tory Party members.  These "Think Tanks" seem to have a surprising amount of traction and respect in the media.

The point you seem to be making appears to be the same point that I have been attempting to make, with limited success, for sometime, ie; the 'shit-show' that is happening in almost every aspect of our World is not the result of incompetence or stupidity but is being directed by shadowy figures in the back-ground. The reason I cited Malcolm Roberts - an Queensland politician who may not seem relevant to issues in the Isle of Man - is that he is one of the few politicians in the World with the courage to expose what is going on. Us complaining or protesting about local, or any, issues has little consequence when the agenda is being set far away, by people most of us have never heard about. It is only when we all wake up to this that we will be empowered to do anything about it.

[manxman1980]

I can almost guarantee that Malcolm Roberts will be in receipt of funding from some mystery donor who probably has interests that will be protected by Roberts climate change denial position.  There is no illuminati seeking world control.  There are just rich people wanting to get richer and protect their already lucrative incomes.  People get wrapped up in conspiracy theories which distract from the real issue.

Check out the difference in income between the top 10% of UK earners compared to the top 1%.  It may shock you. 

[kevster]

2 hours ago, ricardo said:

The point you seem to be making appears to be the same point that I have been attempting to make, with limited success, for sometime, ie; the 'shit-show' that is happening in almost every aspect of our World is not the result of incompetence or stupidity but is being directed by shadowy figures in the back-ground. The reason I cited Malcolm Roberts - an Queensland politician who may not seem relevant to issues in the Isle of Man - is that he is one of the few politicians in the World with the courage to expose what is going on. Us complaining or protesting about local, or any, issues has little consequence when the agenda is being set far away, by people most of us have never heard about. It is only when we all wake up to this that we will be empowered to do anything about it.

From a wikipedia entry on Roberts:

"Roberts has frequently used a style of writing and terminology linked to the sovereign citizen movement. This movement sees governments as illegitimate and attempts to assert the rights of individuals to ignore laws and taxes. Members of this movement aspire to exist outside both the social and legal bounds of society, and use colons and hyphens to evade what they claim is government enslavement via grammar."

I'd take anything he says with a very large pich of salt

[TheTeapot]

[thommo2010]

Not going to lie this is a boring conspiracy theory, needs some aliens added to it or something 

[Chie]

I love the covid conspiracy. It's the gift that just keeps giving.

"Durrr but de jabs are dangerous and people are dying"

Majority of people currently taking the covid vaccine: People with chronic illnesses and the elderly. Ya know, the people that could drop dead at any minute anyway.

The sad part is, these idiots do not have the cognitive ability to think this through.

They see a death and "urrrr its de covid jab". Not, "well, they were 85 years old" or "they did have heart disease".

Nope, its "better stand out on de corner in de Ramsey wearing de blue t-shirts, that will stop it, de boss told me so".

Edited February 9 by Chie

[NoTail]

3 hours ago, Chie said:

I love the covid conspiracy. It's the gift that just keeps giving.

"Durrr but de jabs are dangerous and people are dying"

Majority of people currently taking the covid vaccine: People with chronic illnesses and the elderly. Ya know, the people that could drop dead at any minute anyway.

The sad part is, these idiots do not have the cognitive ability to think this through.

They see a death and "urrrr its de covid jab". Not, "well, they were 85 years old" or "they did have heart disease".

Nope, its "better stand out on de corner in de Ramsey wearing de blue t-shirts, that will stop it, de boss told me so".

You do realise that covid is responsible for:

Gaza 

Putin invading Ukraine

Prince Harry marrying Megan

World War II

Smaller Toblerone packets

Liz Truss

The £ falling in value

Just open your eyes for goodness sake! Smell the coffee!

[Passing Time]

What you have to be thankful for is that Covid eradicated colds and flu 

Edited February 9 by Passing Time

[slinkydevil]

40 minutes ago, NoTail said:

You do realise that covid is responsible for:

Gaza 

Putin invading Ukraine

Prince Harry marrying Megan

World War II

Smaller Toblerone packets

Liz Truss

The £ falling in value

Just open your eyes for goodness sake! Smell the coffee!

You can't have all that without throwing in the word 'Sheeple' somewhere too.

[ricardo]

https://rumble.com/v2rxr4s-plandemic-3-the-great-awakening-full-movie.html

The first 4 minutes of this excellent film will be enough to establish if your existing bias's are well-founded

 

[ricardo]

Dr George Brock Chisholm was the World Health Organisation's first chairman. Is what we are now seeing in society not consistent with these beliefs?

[ricardo]

And this is a delegation of fellow conspiracy 'theorists' that presented a paper to the Irish parliament this week, about the World Health Organisation's ongoing attempt to wrest power from national governments - it includes UK, Irish and European MP's

The issue of concern re. the W.H.O.'s attempted 'power grab' are below - entirely consistent with Dr Chisholm's stated aims

• the future of governance;
• the future of free speech and the right to dissent;
• the future of the right to privacy;
• the extent of digital surveillance and private data mining;
• the control over the production of and access to treatments;
• the control of drug regulation; and 
• bioweapons research

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 10 by ricardo

[ricardo]

Should anyone be interested in what may well present the greatest threat to our liberties and freedom in our lifetime the speech by Dr Tess Lawrie is below:

 

In Dublin this week a historic parliament and town hall event took place, briefing Irish parliamentarians on the W.H.O power grab and what this means for health, human rights and sovereignty.

My Speech in the Irish Parliament on Feb, 6, 2024

I thank Senator Keogan for this opportunity to speak with you all today on the proposed expansion of power of the World Health Organisation. For the record, as a medical doctor I never had a complaint against me; as consultant to the World Health Organisation since 2012, my work was appraised as ‘outstanding’; and, as an independent academic, my  h-index score classes me as an ‘outstanding scientist’. I have no financial conflicts of interest and am here today upholding my Hippocratic Oath to do no harm, with facts and data.

You will all have received the World Council for Health’s policy brief entitled ‘Rejecting monopoly power over global public health’ and associated documents, including the WHO’s compilation of the proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations, and a cover letter highlighting the issues.

A self-perpetuating pandemic industry

This expert policy brief highlights a number of serious questions raised by the proposed IHR Amendments and proposed Treaty, specifically:

• the future of governance;
• the future of free speech and the right to dissent;
• the future of the right to privacy;
• the extent of digital surveillance and private data mining;
• the control over the production of and access to treatments;
• the control of drug regulation; and 
• bioweapons research

Whilst the IHR and Pandemic Treaty are complementary documents, we are most concerned about the proposed IHR amendments at this stage. As you have heard from other speakers, the IHR is a legally binding document, amendments to which may be adopted through a simple majority vote by unelected representatives at the World Health Assembly this May.

However, both legally binding documents would effectively put the WHO in charge in the event of further public health emergencies of international concern (PHEICs). With the power to unilaterally declare pandemics or PHEICs and dictate the international response, these documents could effectively create a self-perpetuating pandemic industry.

“On Saturday I declared a public health emergency of international concern…”

Perhaps you are comforted by the notion of a supranational body taking control in the event of future PHEICs? If so, please consider for a moment the monkeypox PHEIC. On July 22, 2022, the unelected WHO Director-General overruled the majority of the WHO’s IHR Emergency Committee and declared the monkeypox outbreak a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC). It turned out to be a fake PHEIC, which quietly fizzled out when no one was looking.

So, imagine giving the WHO’s Director General even greater power. Legally binding power. This would be the case if either of these instruments are adopted without question.

An audit of WHO’s Covid-19 strategies is overdue

During the Covid-19 crisis, governments around the world followed the advice of the World Health Organisation which, from my experience preparing evidence for clinical practice guidelines, was not evidence-based. There was no good evidence to support the implementation of PCR testing, 6-foot social distancing, face masks, lockdowns, or mass inoculation. But there was evidence to support early treatment and prevention strategies with safe, low-cost, established medicines.

With an excellent safety profile, Ivermectin has been given billions of time since the 90’s – yet the public were told that it was not safe to take for Covid-19. In addition, when ethical doctors and scientists shared evidence and experience on safe and effective early Covid-19 treatment options, they were ignored, actively undermined, discredited or censored.

Reflecting the bidding of its funders, the WHO’s focus is increasingly on new-technology genetic mRNA vaccines, promising us 500 new vaccines by 2030. Before we expand the power of this unelected organisation whose scope of work is extensively influenced by its funders, shouldn’t we first do an audit of its Covid-19 performance?

Analysing WHO’s Vigiaccess.org Covid-19 ‘vaccine’ data

The WHO-Upsala Monitoring Centre Collaboration holds one of the most important drug safety databases in the world: Vigiaccess.org – already mentioned by Dr Billy Ralph. During the past 4 years, the WHO has told governments and the public that Covid 19 vaccines are safe –in the absence of doing an independent safety audit of its own database!

Thus, our World Council for Health research team is currently analysing Vigiaccess.org data for the 26-month period from December 1, 2020 to January 31, 2023. This is what we have found so far:

Almost 5 million people were reported to have over 23 million adverse events during this period. Out of the approximately 5 million people, over 1 million people had at least one serious adverse event (SAE) reported. Serious adverse events are debilitating and life-threatening conditions and death. Over, 58,000 people were reported to have died from the Covid-19 vaccine during this 26-month period.

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Approximately 70% of cases were reported by professionals. The majority of vaccine harms data were derived from Europe and America, with Europe accounting for approximately 700,000 cases of serious adverse events and 15,000 reported deaths. Sixty-four percent of reports of death after vaccination, equivalent to approximately 37,000 people, were from the American continent. The majority of serious adverse events occurred for the 18 to 64 year age groups, and the majority of deaths reports were for the over 65 year age groups.

Sixty-one percent of serious adverse events and 42% of deaths were among women. However, especially concerning are the data on children, with 21,590 serious adverse events reported among children, including four hundred and forty-four (444) child deaths. Children were not a high risk group for Covid-19.

For 34% of death reports there was no associated serious adverse event. Other reports were most commonly associated with infections, cardiac and nervous system Adverse Drug Reaction categories. Further analysis of these data are in progress.

It cannot be said that Covid-19 ‘vaccines’ are safe

Of course there are many limitations to these data. Some of these are that:

1. Without data on the total number of vaccine recipients, causation cannot be conclusively determined.
2. Adverse drug reactions are substantially underreported – estimated at less than 10% of the true number, although Dr Billy Ralph said this figure could be a low as one percent.
3. The reports in this database have not been subject to follow up, so we do not know whether these individuals recovered, experienced a deterioration in their conditions, or succumbed to the reported adverse events. And,
4. WHO has significant conflicts of interest.

An urgent independent and transparent audit of the entire database is needed, including how and why this international health authority ignored the safety signal on its own and, arguably, the most important international drug safety database. Based on the WHO’s Vigiaccess data, however, it simply cannot be said that the covid vaccines are safe.

What is also clear, is that human health, freedom and sovereignty are under serious threat.

The failure of international governments to hold the WHO to account over its harmful Covid-19 strategies, and to act decisively to reject this supranational power grab, suggests that governments may no longer be in charge of country policy-making.

Let’s work together to stop this power grab!

So I ask you now, could it ever be acceptable to trans­fer decision-making powers reserved for democratic institutions to an unelected, unaccountable body not subject to constitutional or control mecha­nisms? I invite you to work together with us to stop this expansion of power of the WHO and of the supranational entities controlling it.

Rest assured, that there is a better way for health and democracy.

Thank you for your kind attention.

[Dirty Buggane]

The only thing I took in was, thank you for your kind attention.

Which is kind of ironic, as after the first page there was no attention.