Slim Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'm talking technical reasons, not financial ones. Why, £150 for a half our episode on iplayer isn't prohibitive enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Stop being a cock, it's a different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 So - I haven't quite sussed from the conversation: is the iPhone available to buy locally without the special contract? i have a monthly contract but I'm not particularly bothered about buying a data plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThieBane Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 OK - as usual didn't make myself clear. Am on the MT simple contract, so I pay 15 quid a month, am not locked into contract and get reasonable amount of texts and minutes plus my data. If I go to an 18 month contact with MT I pay ~ 35 quid a month and get my iPhone for 220 quid. Which equates to an extra 20 quid a month on top of what I'm already paying = £320 + the £220 for the phone which makes £540. Or I could upgrade to a Simple 1200 contract to get my 16Gb option at £420 p/m and £49 quid a month. Ouch. iPhone PAYG on O2 is £391 - so a saving in my warped maths. Question is - does an O2 phone work on the MT network with an MT SIM without being unlocked??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanna Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Wooott iphone 3g over here? has mt got an good ideas department now or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Question is - does an O2 phone work on the MT network with an MT SIM without being unlocked??? I don't know the answer to that. However (related) - AFAIK there is no software unlock for the 3G iPhone. The only solution is a piggy-bag sim card hack. It involves stuffing the another 'special' card the same size as a sim in to the slot with your sim card. And it's a right old botch according to the review which I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Why can't you use the 3g network? Pay as you go... there is no pay as you go 3G network, its only GSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 OK - as usual didn't make myself clear. Am on the MT simple contract, so I pay 15 quid a month, am not locked into contract and get reasonable amount of texts and minutes plus my data. If I go to an 18 month contact with MT I pay ~ 35 quid a month and get my iPhone for 220 quid. Which equates to an extra 20 quid a month on top of what I'm already paying = £320 + the £220 for the phone which makes £540. Or I could upgrade to a Simple 1200 contract to get my 16Gb option at £420 p/m and £49 quid a month. Ouch. iPhone PAYG on O2 is £391 - so a saving in my warped maths. Question is - does an O2 phone work on the MT network with an MT SIM without being unlocked??? I see where the saving comes in, that can be applied to most phones over here because they are not subsidised by the Network. If you manage to get an unlocked O2 3G phone then it will cost you a fortune using it for data, thats why the package comes with 2gig of mobile data per month included in the monthly contract. If you dont plan on using the phone for data then if you are prepared to take the risk of getting an unlocked one, there are a few people with them and they say for calls and wifi the phone works, email and browsing is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 2gig per month? I'm a little unclear on what this would mean. For example if I were to watch a 1/2 hour show on iPlayer how much of a gig would that be? Or How many MF threads will 2gig buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 2gig per month? I'm a little unclear on what this would mean. For example if I were to watch a 1/2 hour show on iPlayer how much of a gig would that be? Or How many MF threads will 2gig buy? Average MF page is about 100k, so 20,000 or so page refreshes on mf in 2gb, course it'd be more than that with caching of images and whatnot. About six half hour tv shows, depending on the quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThieBane Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 O2 currently running unlimited data (subject to 'fair usage' I suspect ) for an 18 month contract at 30 quid a month or above. Seems quite fair really. They also offer the iPhone at £159 - rather less than the MT price. Bet MT don't do visual voicemail either. Oh yeah, and the iPhone 3g doesn't support MMS. Which was a bit of a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastie Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 to be honest had a few iphones and its a simple beautiful crap, it just looks nice nothing else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 2gig per month? I'm a little unclear on what this would mean. For example if I were to watch a 1/2 hour show on iPlayer how much of a gig would that be? Or How many MF threads will 2gig buy? Average MF page is about 100k, so 20,000 or so page refreshes on mf in 2gb, course it'd be more than that with caching of images and whatnot. About six half hour tv shows, depending on the quality. Picked my 3G I-Phone up today. I'm happy with it and work paid for mine anyway. But TBH where on the Island would you want to sit and watch i-player on 3G realistically when there are places to connect to wifi? Give me a few real world examples cos all I'm using 3G for is getting the odd email or using some GPS apps when I'm out and about. If I wanted to watch the lastest episode of Doctor Who it can wait til I'm in wifi range - I'm not that desperate to want to pay loads for data transfer. We've got the SDK kit so going to look at developing some apps - what we don't know yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 But TBH where on the Island would you want to sit and watch i-player on 3G realistically when there are places to connect to wifi? Give me a few real world examples cos all I'm using 3G for is getting the odd email or using some GPS apps when I'm out and about. If I wanted to watch the lastest episode of Doctor Who it can wait til I'm in wifi range - I'm not that desperate to want to pay loads for data transfer. We've got the SDK kit so going to look at developing some apps - what we don't know yet! Aye, I don't think the wireless telcos are charging right for movie downloading yet, your online stuffs for textual still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 But TBH where on the Island would you want to sit and watch i-player on 3G realistically when there are places to connect to wifi? Give me a few real world examples On a bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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